I think I'll make a thread out of it with links to the episodes of podcasts I really enjoyed #traumasurgery #medstudenttwitter #medtwitter #MedEd First off, two great interviews with trauma specialists @JJcolemanMD and @docmartin22

@Xeon4f145d96s1 @waterman_harry And the spots already go unfilled. Over 400 of the last year. This is 400 rota gaps. In a country with ever expanding wait lists and below-average doctor:patient ratios. The NHS would not survive ostracising IMGs.

@Xeon4f145d96s1 @waterman_harry You realise that the main reason IMGs choose UK nowadays is coz it's a fair process? NHS is a shit show, underfunded, understaffed and poorly managed with average pay (vs drs in other countries). If you try forcing IMGs to fill the last-minute, unwanted spots they'll go elsewhere

@waterman_harry If that's the case why is there an outcry about consultants and GPs unable to find jobs? Why are senior clinicians allocated to supervise other HCPs that aren't doctors? It's not about resources it's about workforce planning and choices being made on managerial level.

@Xeon4f145d96s1 @waterman_harry Correlation does not equal causation.

@Xeon4f145d96s1 @waterman_harry And does that graph take into account the 11k of multi-applications if not, it's a useless graph that shows nothing.

@Xeon4f145d96s1 @waterman_harry And yes, I do believe the no of applications per person should be capped. No one will end up doing more than 1 specialty at any given time so oversubscribing 'just in case' stops other people from getting a chance of getting an interview/job. Regardless of where they graduated.

@waterman_harry UK needs about 54,000 MORE doctors to reach the AVERAGE no. of Drs per 1000 ppl compared to other high income countries. Of that over 20,000 more we need are GPs and consultants. That's plenty to supervise.

@DrLukeCraddock I'm curious @DrLukeCraddock is your data, including the competition rates, adjusted for the 11,085 ppl that applied for more than 1 specialty?

@DrLukeCraddock Geez, talk about creative, selective and misleading data presentation that ignores the complexity of the issue completely 🤦🏻‍♀️

@DrSharandeep @waterman_harry @Xeon4f145d96s1 Yes, but it wasn't 'possible' for 11k applicants that's what I meant by saying that MSRA made it possible. Not on an individual level.

@waterman_harry @Xeon4f145d96s1 11,085 people applied for more than 1 specialty. I'm pretty sure that has a significant impact on the specialty recruitment being overwhelm. And was only made possible by MSRA.

The other day I was called on my mobile by a random manager chasing a job I was aware of already. Had to tell them and the rota coordinator who felt it was ok to give my number to people without consent that this is most definitely NOT ok, should be common sense 🙄

This place is something else. On my way home (12min walk if that) I walked past a dj party in an art gallery, in a bakery and at barber's 😅

@Sam_C1997 @OMisquitta As in in your capacity as a doctor? Sure but your comment earlier suggests that your see your future in London hence my observation.

@Sam_C1997 @OMisquitta @InfamousGasman Fair, we're clearly looking at it from very different perspectives.

@Sam_C1997 @OMisquitta @InfamousGasman I appreciate that your viewpoint might be different as someone based in London but the workforce planning has to include the rest of the UK as well. If all LEDs posts were converted into NTNs and the UKGs still struggles with getting training I'd be first to change my tune.