@Hellish_lol you have to get the shirt first, then leave, that’s the game

@Hellish_lol Oh wait…

@SoSleeplessss It’s mostly better to be tanky enough for your own to sustain 2 combos of your enchanter then 1 combos with SV buff.

@Ecstassy1 Good old poke Va…. Oh wait….

@SyzyfekA @Karik031 Wait soloq list and twitch so low?!

@CoachSeryy But it doesn’t since there are other buffs coming in terms of dmg from adcs and other champs. Like you’re taking these changes in isolation while your play potential gets lower so more time for enemy to dmg. Let’s look at champs wr after changes, I’m annoyed of this discussion.

@CoachSeryy But this point I never stated I said they won’t drop 2 lvls down in tierlists nor they will be useless but that’s because of their kit and what the champ itself brings to the rift especially in Competetive. Only Jgl clear would change that hard.

@CoachSeryy And no, number on Skarner is not very low since it effects every E you hit on enemy in early game by 0.5 secs which we just found out still is 1 auto with Q missing + less time for team to react as followup engage. I will stop this discussion right here since youre helpless.

@CoachSeryy You still don't get it, it's a high number of fights where you straightup lose 2 seconds on your most important spell (ult excluded) which grants you aas, q reset, 1 more ult + 1 more q from clone on every use. If you don't get 2 W's out it matters and 2 secs matter.

@CoachSeryy It's legit in the post you answered on, again: I'm talking about that it's NOT placebo = useless nerfs how you state them, they allow more counterplay and you will lose dmg. I rly don't understand how you can not get that.

@CoachSeryy But you know that if the animation is charged and I don’t lose vision the auto goes off? What are you yapping bro.

@CoachSeryy Im not saying Skarner or Wukong will be useless or drop 2 tiers, they will still dominate meta but it allows more counterplay while adcs getting more buffs and more dmg is coming into the game.

@CoachSeryy + I can agree with the E part of Wukong being placebo, tho the W is interesting nerf since you max it 2. and it’s literally because it gives you so much in tfs if you get it off twice. If the nerf effects that effectively I see a world where it matters.

@Hellish_lol Bro doesn’t know the chill German Weizen drinking Kutcher