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Family Scripture Study -- Do it! Listen to what the prophets are saying. #bookofmormon #generalconference #mormon #lds book of mormon
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@5lbtrout Great hymn, one of the few of the new hymns that is enjoyable to sing as a congregation. Wish they would have enabled the general membership to upvote and downvote the nominees for inclusion in the new hymnbook.
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@ldshymnstats I love singing the hymns in church, but I do not like singing many of the new hymns. Hymns like Bread of Life Living Water have a good message but no melody after the first few phrases. I end up getting mad and distracted from focusing on the sacrament.
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I believe the writings in the Bible to contain the word of God. I'm just asking how you define the word of God. Because nowhere has God defined the word of God to be limited to a certain limited set of texts and nothing else. That would be ridiculous, because it would mean that things that God told people that were not preserved or translated correctly are not the word of God.
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I agree that it is very rare for modern prophets to speak in the voice of Jesus Christ except when quoting the scriptures. But Here are A few quotes of relevance that show the current prophets have the power and authority to say "thus saith the Lord," and that they don't have to use that phrase for their words to be the words of the Lord. "In this conference, the Lord has spoken to us through His servants." “There are those who insist that unless the Prophet of the Lord declares, ‘Thus saith the Lord,’ the message may not be taken as revelation. This is a false testing standard. For while many of our modern revelations as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants do contain these words, there are many that do not.” (Church News, July 31, 1954.) “The prophet does not have to say ‘Thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture. … (1980 Devotional Speeches of the Year [1981], 26) "With the keys of the kingdom, the Lord’s servants can identify both truth and falsehood and once again authoritatively state, “Thus saith the Lord.”" "whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same" Doctrine and Covenants 1:38
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@AugustusAmeri @DanEllsworthVA @pol_plesiosaur @BenBird53920553 I think I understand you now. I think all of these are Revelations from the Lord even if they are not put in the first person in the words of the Lord. But I bet if we look we will find some examples of that in modern times.
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@AugustusAmeri @DanEllsworthVA @pol_plesiosaur @BenBird53920553 How can I say yes without more when you clearly have some narrow definition of revelation you are trying to apply here. And so I told you exactly what they were so you can call it what you want. What is your definition of revelation? I like Almo's:
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@AugustusAmeri @DanEllsworthVA @pol_plesiosaur @BenBird53920553 They are revealed doctrine and inspired text, just like Paul's letters to the churches.
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@Ablaze90210 @sola_chad @WesleyLHuff My question was how do you define the Word of God? This chart just shows efforts by many different individuals to preserve, copy, translate, and publish some of their sacred texts.
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@AugustusAmeri @DanEllsworthVA @pol_plesiosaur @BenBird53920553 He did not. The proclamation on the family, and the living Christ, will probably be in our canonized scripture someday.
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RT @Local_man2479: “If most of the information you get comes from social or other media, your ability to hear the whisperings of the Spirit…
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Nice to know that everything in an application is considered, instead of asking kids to write essays that no one will ever read, but how does the "holistic review" improve the quality of the student body? And if a student does not get accepted, will they be more depressed because they failed to measure up even after a holistic review, and not just because someone had better grades or test scores?
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We weren't there, so how could we know? We have fragments of second-hand accounts. They may be accurate, they may not be accurate. Joseph himself may have pretended to use a different stone in order to protect the real interpreter stones. It doesn't really matter. Why did Moses use his staff to turn the River Nile to blood instead of just touching it with his finger? Doesn't really matter.
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Seems like you've been misinformed about the Book of Mormon. If what you had said were true, do you really think an entire University, one of the largest private universities in the world, which includes prominent scholars of ancient languages and ancient history, would believe in the Book of Mormon, let alone the 17 million members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
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Well now you are just talking yourself in circles. You're not going to have any better luck proving the truth of the Bible to a skeptic than you would proving the truth of the Book of Mormon to a skeptic. The fact that ancient people wrote down the story doesn't make the story any more true than ancient stories about Ra or Zeus.
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