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📌Another milestone reached! As of today, you can find over 1,500 pages of official FFVII material translated on my Google Drive:
If you appreciate my work and would like to help out, please consider making a small donation on Ko-fi
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happy-go-lucky himbo idiot who gets decimated by fate is one of nojima's best character types ngl
Nojima suspects that his image of Zack's character from the OG FF7 inspired Tidus in FFX. He says that neither dwells on things too much, and both have a clear sense of right and wrong. They suffer and worry when encountering issues they can't adopt a firm position on (CCU, 2007)
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Before the FFVII Rebirth Ultimania comes out, I wanted to write a thread on where my personal theorizing stands. This is more for posterity and future reflection than anything else, but feel free to follow along. 🧵
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Yoshida confirms that there will indeed be a theme song for FFXVI sung by a vocalist—multiple, in fact—but he can't yet reveal who those singers will be. He plans to make an announcement some time in the future. Source: Sohu
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i was too busy looking at Cloud being insane
FFVII Rebirth director of photography Akama Yūki says that in the game's ending movie, they showed snowy mountains beyond the grassy plains in order to impart an open-world feel and make players wonder, “Oh, is that the Great Northern Cavity over there?” (RbU, 2024)
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Takai says the animator responsible for Torgal's lovable movements in FFXVI is a mid-career hire he interviewed. Takai asked her what kind of animations she'd like to do, to which she replied: "I love animals! I want to animate dogs! More than anything!" Source: Den-fami Nico
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A literal translation of the FFVII Rebirth trailer, if anyone finds it useful.
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-outsource extremely important character building to mobile title
-have secret post-chapter CG with incorrect aspect ratio
-missing English subtitles for English-majority audience
-final title card looks ripped straight from a nokia phone
Ever Crisis stays fucking winning
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having Tifa be the main controllable character from the beginning of the game all the way up to the halfway point or so would be a pretty amazing move
Hamaguchi says that if the third FFVII remake game is to follow the OG, then we'll pick up by going to Icicle Inn and the Great Cavity. The Weapons will appear, we'll get the airship, and so on. But he's still struggling with how best to actually kick things off. (RbU, 2024)
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gotta stop sometimes to appreciate how the Whispers were the most hated aspect of Remake and the devs were like fuck you, here's twice as many in Rebirth
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looks like the English localization introduced a little continuity error by changing Barret's line about Myrna to one about Marlene, who wouldn't exist until at least a year after this scene.
JP: I don't want Myrna to scrape by an' suffer any longer.
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anyone want an extremely high quality crisis core concept art scan
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damn this is on the first page of the Ultimania. sorry guys
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I’d like to articulate just why I think this scene was so poignant and well-executed in FFVII OG, and why, in my opinion, Rebirth failed to fully do it justice. This will be a somewhat lengthy explanation, because this scene ties together so many threads and themes.
#FF7RSpoilers
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Takai says the team knew FFXVI would feature a cast of changing party members, but they didn't want players feeling lonely during Clive's solo travels. A constant human companion would feel odd, so they settled on a wolf or "warg" partner. Source: Den-fami Nico
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Nomura: we've basically already finished the main scenario for part 3 [looks down at blank sheet of paper that says 'wait and see what max dood predicts']
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Forgive me this serious thread. I need to comment on a harmful line of discourse about FFVII Rebirth’s localization that I feel I helped fuel. I’ve blocked an account I think is doing much more harm than good in their approach to critiquing the game’s English translation. 🧵
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I never had time to collect my thoughts about Two Thousand Gil to Become a Hero since I was scrambling to cover the Rebirth script, but now that I can read it again, I have lots of thoughts! It's a testament to Nojima's craft and how much he values symmetry in storytelling. 🧵
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This is Aerith's famous "I'm searching for you" line from the OG, though admittedly the verb is fully articulated in the Japanese
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Here are the translated English lyrics for what we've heard so far of FFXVI's new main theme, "Moongazing," by Kenshi Yonezu. How are you all feeling about this song?
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Interesting line from Sephiroth as he prepares to fight the Behemoth Pawn: "Hands off my world!" Seems like he's already trying to fashion a perfect world where he's the hero who succeeds in saving everyone
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Ever Crisis seems to suggest that Aerith knows Zack is already dead. It isn't reflected in the original Japanese script, but still interesting
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12. Why Does Sephiroth Need Cloud So Badly?
I don’t know. He’s gay and lonely. It will probably be explained in Part 3, if ever. Maybe he just wants a single eternal witness to his glory.
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me in 2023: man I hope they don't make Aerith's fate really confusing or something to string people along to part 3
me in 2024: define death,
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Yoshida says that during the early design phase, he wanted to give Torgal swappable skins for up to 100 dog breeds so that players could choose their favorite. However, when the staff got to work on the fur shaders, just the default skin was hard enough. Source: Den-fami Nico
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SE press asset for Rebirth's story. This is the English translation for what's on the back of the provisional Japanese pre-order box
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Yoshida says the inspiration for FFXVI's Eikon focus came from when he had to navigate a huge crowd to move between booths at TGS. He fantasized that if he turned into Ifrit, he could step over everyone's head and get from booth to booth without trouble. Source: Den-fami Nico
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Something I haven't seen much (if any) discussion about. In this Chapter 14 scene where Aerith seemingly opens a portal to send Cloud through, we're given two very deliberate shots of the church's pews and flowers disappearing. Curious about people's thoughts.
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Yuffie's page from the "FFVII Remake Material Ultimania Plus," hitting shelves October 17, 2033.
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Coming up in this thread: a full translation of June's GAME Watch interview with Final Fantasy XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida. This is a very long interview, so bear with me! As usual, plaintext will be provided at the end.
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with Rebirth out, it's interesting to go back to the Ever Crisis intro and revisit what Sephiroth says. cooking or coincidence?
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Yoshida says Ifrit will only feel sluggish during the battle with Garuda. From there on out, you'll be facing Eikons five times as big as you, so the speed of the gameplay in those segments will increase drastically. Source: Den-fami Nico
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[seeing a lot of people say they don't like the ending of ffvii rebirth] hmm... I fuckin love the ending of ffvii rebirth
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Cloud is thus able to enter battle unbroken. Unlike the other party members, his limit gauge is not filled because he doesn’t have the rage inspired by witnessing Aerith’s death.
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In the English localization of the Material Ultimania, these two universes are respectively called the "universe of death" and the "universe of creation." More accurately, they are the "dying universe" (死にゆく宇宙) and the "universe that will be born" (生まれる宇宙).
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Yoshida says this key art required a lot of reworking. FFXVI's world carries a sense of impending doom, so you get a lot of cloudy weather and dark screens. For the illustrations and art, they instead embraced the classic FF blue sky—albeit a sorrowful blue. Source: Den-fami Nico
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Yoshida says they had to bring on some of the Kingdom Hearts crew and employees from other companies to realize the Eikon battles, forming a team of industry all-stars—something he promises to speak more about closer to release.
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With Crisis Core Reunion on the horizon, I'll transition back to guidebooks for a bit and translate the story playback from the 2007 Crisis Core Ultimania. This is a rather poetic section narrating Zack's journey through the game chapter by chapter. 🧵
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In the original FFVII, Rufus doesn't learn about the Reunion until the Northern Cave. In the Rebirth trailer, Rufus has been briefed by Hojo that if the copies are followed, they'll lead to Sephiroth's true body—so clearly long before reaching the crater.
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I've got something a little different for you in this 🧵. It's an article from the June 1997 issue of Jugemu. "Philosophizing FFVII" is a contemporary Japanese analysis of FFVII's plot, characters, and mythos that delves into the game's late '90s cultural and media inspirations.
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Yoshida says that the base Clive returns to after each story section will house moogles who will give Clive information about various formidable monsters to be found throughout the realm. Source: Sohu
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"Was it all a dream? Will I ever know?"
Hollow was about Ever Crisis this whole time
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ways to improve on Zack in rebirth:
-bigger ass
-thicker
-sluttier (tastefully)
-bi
-changes into new outfit
-gay for Cloud
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I hate that my preferred theory says "literally all three" but that's where we are
At the end of FFVII Rebirth, it’s unclear at this point in what capacity Aerith is appearing—as a living person, a spirit speaking from the Lifestream, or an illusion seen only by Cloud. (RbU, 2024)
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👀 What do we got here? Shо̄nen Gangan, October 2005 issue. An AC interview with Nomura hot on the heels of the film's release. Will post some translations as I go. Also there's some cute illustrations hand drawn by Nomura!
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who would win? megastrong supersoldier or dude who woke up from a coma 4 days ago
The Sanook Game Team asks Hamaguchi, "In FFVII Rebirth, who would win if Cloud had to fight against Zack?" Hamaguchi says that as a creator, it's a bit challenging to answer because if he says it, it might lead to biased opinions. (thaigamewiki, 10/21)
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FFXVI is going to be such a treat for English speakers. This will be the first ever FF with original English voice recording and mocap, and the difference is going to be palpable. I'm personally planning to play in English, then German, then finally Japanese. Imagine that!
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In Famitsu's 2022 year-in roundup of thoughts and impressions from Japanese game creators, Kitase hopes everyone is having fun with the recently released Crisis Core Reunion and enjoying the adventures of Zack, whom he refers to as "another main character of the FFVII world" 👀
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I am a big Nomura fan. I admire his work and the challenges he's overcome. No, I don't think every last thing he touches is gold, and I don't think his games are perfect for everyone. But I love his dedication, creative style, and willingness to commit to new and risky concepts.
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Next up in the Story Playback section of the FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania, Revised Edition, is Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII. (Re)discover the plot of this Japan-exclusive mobile game and peek some interesting footnotes to the series' lore.
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FFXVI's combat is reported to be quicker than God of War's but not so frantic and fast-paced as DMC or Nier. It gives some Bloodborne and Elden Ring vibes. Source: hk01
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FFVII is a game with highly unique characters who are all concealing inner feelings and parts of their identity—Cloud his sense of inferiority; Tifa her dependency; Red XIII his immaturity; Barret his fraudulence; Aerith her anxiety and pain as a lone Ancient; and so on.
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Dengeki PlayStation No. 40 cover went hard. If you or anyone you know owns this issue, please let me know!
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contextually with the Japanese line, I'm pretty certain this is Zack recalling how bullets kept magically missing him. The next shot will probably be a Whisper "blowing" it away
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men will literally slumber in a coffin for 30 years instead of go to therapy
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the following terms are hereby BANNED from the FFVII lore meta:
-multiverse
-red herring
-timeline
-redemption arc
-sloppy seconds
-OG purist
-Jenovaerith
-nakama
-occam's razor
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seeing some chatter about the ffvii ending fmv once again and I can assure everyone we've translated it as it was originally intended. The age of ambiguity is over
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Indeed, this rainbow motif is used liberally to indicate whenever a world-crossing event occurs. It can be seen when Aerith and Sephiroth open inter-world portals, and in any circumstances where world-crossing or mingling occurs.
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But when you stray into repeatedly targeting individual team members for their contribution to the project, that becomes a problem. Even if Rebirth’s localization were objectively bad (it isn’t), it still would be inexcusable to harass the people who made it. Please don’t do so.
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You can visualize this much like white light (the unified lifestream) passing through a prism and exiting as a refracted rainbow of near-infinite component parts (the new layers of worlds).
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In this way, the player is meant to fill Cloud’s shoes. Though they feel pain about the possibility of Aerith’s death, there is enough hope to prevent those negative emotions from triumphing. Just like Cloud, the player has been spared a descent into grief—at least for now.
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In this 🧵: the next rare interview from V Jump's special February 15, 1997 issue is with Tetsuya Nomura. Involved not only with character design but overall planning and scenario, Nomura discusses FFVII's highlights and shares some of his art. (Scans from
@duskyLimestone
🙏)
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correct aside from Zack who would be on the bottom
in case u were wondering
(politics has me meme-ing)
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Although Nomura didn't let the constraint of polygons affect his initial character designs for FFVII, when it came time to model them, he had to change various aspects and give detailed instructions. (Image text: "Remote control antenna"; "This shoulder is a little bigger")
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With Sephiroth Rebirth foiled, Cloud enters battle man-to-man. At this point, lifestream Aerith arrives to aid Cloud. Sephiroth remarks that he underestimated Aerith. With this line, he’s referring both to her foresight saving Zack and her preventing Cloud from breaking down.
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Possessed Cloud > Zack > regular Cloud. no questions please
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Oops, silly me. That typo line should say "So what, you're doubting me?"
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Hiroshi Kuwabara comments that Remake isn't merely a remake but a major event in [the universe of] Final Fantasy VII.
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On the left is the official English for Sephiroth's quote from Rebirth. It's possible this line is spoken at the Temple of the Ancients, as it overlaps with this one from the OG:
「おまえたちには死あるのみ。しかし、悲しむことはない」
"For you only death awaits—but do not lament."
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would love to have Knights of the Round be a whole massive sidequest. you go around following clues to hidden locations, defeating each knight individually until you get to Arthur, who fights you on his own and then with the help of the other 12
#FF7RUltimania
Hamaguchi says there are still four Summons from the OG that have not been included in the FF7 Remake project yet, and he knows everyone is waiting for Knights of the Round lol.
He hopes they can create something that can live up to the expectation for that one
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Nomura wondered if there were a way to leverage the embattlement and frustration players feel when facing hard-hitting enemies. He landed on the concept of limit breaks, and gave each character unique moves to highlight their individuality.
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Back at the Forgotten Capital, the party laments over Aerith’s corpse. Cloud witnesses the new world superimposed over his own and awakens the unconscious Aerith. Notably she lacks the lifestream particle effect from earlier. This is a real, living version of Aerith. She awakens.
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men will literally die to protect their SOLDIER honor instead of going to therapy
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I've noticed this trend in the official material starting in 2005 where the bios for Cloud are increasingly all like "he is a piece of SHIT weakling with NO POWER, no confidence, and oh yeah a TINY DICK."
Cloud's Jenova cells fabricate a new personality—that of his best friend and role model Zack. The wishes Zack tries to pass on are exploited by the cells and transformed into a perverted legacy, serving as no more than a disguise for Cloud’s weakness and inferiority. (CLOUD V1)
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Suddenly, Cloud starts seeing flashes of the original world, where he’s lamenting over Aerith’s body as in the OG. These flashes are shown with the Jenova filter. This is because Sephiroth is forcing Cloud to witness the tragedy so he can break him further and harvest his sorrow.
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just heard from an inside source that Square Enix is "slightly panicking" about how powerful Cait Sith is in ffVII Rebirth. rumors of game-breaking abilities and stats. asked to nerf the character's overwhelming strength, Nomura had this to say: "No"
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crisis core was an absolute banger. The dmw system rocked and the characters and plot made absolute narrative sense in the mgs3 heyday. Insane historical revisionism around that game
Apparently, our Moogle stance was a hot take... AND WE STILL STAND BY IT 😤
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Square Enix expects to release more content related to FFXVI's world, lore, and characters, as well as open-world zones in April. They confirmed that chocobos will be rideable in these open zones. Source: hk01
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A lot of fans felt Remake's themes of fate and struggling against destiny came out of left field. However, if you look at official material for FFVII dating as far back as January 1997, you'll see this premise was already heavily ingrained in the story. (A casual and gradual 🧵)
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In this 🧵: an interview you've never seen. Late one night in January 1997, the editors at Jugemu invited seven of FFVII's lead developers out for drinks to celebrate the game's upcoming release. As the alcohol flowed, the devs opened up about their work. (Scans by Limestone!)
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Dengeki PlayStation No. 325 (Girl's Style edition!) flew totally under my radar for reasons you may guess. Turns out it's packed full of developer notes and interviews with Advent Children's creators and voice actors. Big thanks to
@ILovecloti
for the the magazine scans! 🧵
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Limestone has come through once more with some incredible stuff. Got two 1996 (!) FFVII interviews coming up. But for now whet your whistle with these super early character profiles from Famitsu
#376
(3/1/1996). The author guesses Cloud and Aerith's ages at 15 and 16😅
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Coming up is a very neat trio of interviews with Nomura, Nozue, and Nojima regarding Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete. These come from Dengeki PlayStation No. 445 (5/15/2009). A very big thanks to
@alexfkraus
for providing with me with the page images!
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To say these changes and embellishments are part of a conspiracy to distort the intended meaning of the source text—either to align with the localizers’ romantic in-game preferences or to undermine Square Enix’s leadership—is, in my opinion, extremely naive.
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"The price of freedom has never been cheaper" was RIGHT there 😔
Becoming a hero has never been easier - Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII- Reunion is on sale for a limited time on
@PlayStation
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But I think it will also reveal to both of them the fact that Aerith survived in a new world. Cloud will have to grapple with the pain of remembering her death in the original world, and Tifa will have to wrap her head around her survival in the new one.
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I added a side by side of the JP and English in the spreadsheet here. Remember that localizing a song like this isn't cut and dry. Please don't jump to conclusions blaming the people responsible for translating the lyrics: they didn't do so in a vacuum.
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