The growing short case on $FB and $GOOG:
1. New product experiences
2. Regulation
3. Taxes
4. Anti-trust
If you have the capital/stomach for a 5yr+ bet, here’s how I’d build the short case...
$GOOG clearly admitted last night that they are not seeing adequate *current* ROIC on AI capex, are likely over-investing, and struggled to provide concrete examples of killer apps deployed at scale, but emphasized that adoption of new technologies takes time, and the risks from
“ROIC is one of the most important principles in investing, which is so utterly misunderstood, most people don’t even know how to calculate it: NOPAT / WACC,” -
@chamath
😂
Stanley Druckenmiller:
“I was up 42% last year and I’m up 17% this year. I’ve made those numbers bc of the Fed not in spite of them. I have 6 outside money managers who are up a lot more than me. A monkey can make money in this market.”
Perhaps the whole scooter thing will become a relic of this VC bubble.
Tampa decides to phase out scooters over the next 3yrs.
The timing of $BRDS SPAC and the speed at which it incinerated shareholder wealth is just incredible
Below is a long thread on 7 key levers that will drive growth at $ADSK for the next decade. Investors have been fixated on mgmt.’s guided $2.4bn FCF by Jan ‘22, but I believe there is vast opportunity beyond that point. First, a summary of the drivers. I will expand on each one:
In my immaturity as an investor I mistook my contrarian bias for being an independent thinker. Today I strive to actually be an independent thinker, even when it leads me to conclusions that are quite consensus.
Note & analysis from Bernstein showing that the number of titles in a streaming library don't meaningfully drive engagement - new releases do. Candidly, I overestimated the value of libraries to legacy media companies in building sustainable DTC businesses $DIS $WBD $NFLX $PARA
Good note from Kash/Goldman software team on what's weighing on the sector and their view from here:
- $15B of AI revenue at hyperscale clouds (~2% of global software revs) bypassing normal budget scrutiny. In a no-growth budget environment, that elevates the scrutiny on
@JaredSleeper
S&P 500 margins have been in contraction for 2yrs, wage pressures persist, rates are in restrictive territory, driving widespread belt tightening. Last year cloud optimization was the low hanging fruit and I think now as companies go into software renewals post layoffs, SaaS
So you cant buy big tech (no earnings clarity), semis (cycle/already bounced), SaaS (too much SBC), media (shrinking profit pool), gaming (cyclical), telco (competition), internet (ads), ecom (recession/margins). All TMT has become uninvestible. Have fun with Staples/Utes/Energy?
The following funds run by investing "legends" have underperformed the S&P since 2010, over a full cycle, w/ many different flavors of value investing:
- Sequoia
- Oakmark
- Longleaf Partners
- Davis Ventures
- Fairholme
- Fenimore
- Berkshire BV/S
- Markel BV/S
The game is hard
Buffett, Malone, Diller all long in the tooth. Who are some great dealmakers still under 60?
- Andy Florence, CoStar
- Neil Hunn, Roper
- Jensen Huang, Nvidia
Dark Horses
- Josh Silverman, Etsy
- Larry Culp, GE
- Jeff Lawson, Twilio
Zuck’s likely done doing deals
Who else?
Day 1 Bezos vibes from Andy Jassy today on CNBC.
This is exactly how you want your CEO to look - zero vanity and all business. Balding (didn’t get the power shave or Elon plugs), blue collar shirt & modest loose-fitting suit, healthy but not jacked.
The near-term bear case for software is below, expressed in a CIO anecdote shared by UBS analyst Karl Keirstead on software bloat and vendor pricing aggression. The bull case is that extrapolating the current digestion period is too punitive. $MSFT $CRM $NOW
"Our focus right now
Terry Smith causally labeled $FTNT as a duopoly w/ $PANW in firewalls. Each has ~20% share in firewall, and far less in SASE and Cloud which are their respective growth markets... duopoly rly? C'mon
Sold $AMZN bc of 1 comment on grocery and took credit for them not doing it yet?
I’m late to this but the
@BillAckman
recount of his comeback story on
@lexfridman
podcast is truly remarkable. Lost $4B on Valeant, public short campaign turned disaster in $HLF, faced redemptions, facing litigation, Paul Singer was going activist on his public activist business,
A bad short: Trades 30x consensus estimates, but it’s actually 25x bc they both manage expectations and execute exceptionally … re-rates to 35x as everyone recognizes they’ll continue to beat AND consensus moves up so you lose 2x (fundamentals and multiple)
A decent funding
Uber has gotten so bad in tier II/III cities. Prices and wait times have skyrocketed generally to make it no longer a “no brainer,” and I’ve now been stranded at both Tampa, San Diego airports and downtown Richmond. Did COVID break ridesharing or just transitory?
It cost $25k to have a baby with no complications + 2 nights in the hospital
Among the charges is $4.3k for room and board... I slept on a couch and ate cafeteria food - I can assure it was no St Regis 😂
No refund for the processing error which delayed meds to my wife 5hrs 😬
Investing legend Jeff Vinik in recent interview:
- Spending more time on stocks (less on Lightning/RE), read 8hr/day
- Key to investing is to be bullish long term but avoid bubbles
- Expects light recession then 5-10yrs of prosperity
- Expects rent to stabilize from new supply
$PLTR: “We have a good chance at becoming the most important software company in the world,” CEO Alex Karp told BBG during an interview Monday. “Demand is unprecedented for Palantir’s AI,” he said.
They reported … 13% growth? Do they know what the word “unprecedented” means?
$FB will generate ~$158 this year per US sub, nearly identical to $NFLX, but with over twice the gross margin, and 4x the users.
FB has grown US ARPU ~30% for 8 years, while growth has stalled recently.
I think $FB is cheap relative to its long term opportunity set. But (ctd)
Not that anyone cares but $MKL just crushed earnings… grew TBV/share >25% in ‘21. Insurance biz growing 17% while underwriting at 90% CR. 80% of mkt cap covered by equities, excess cash, & ventures (if worth 15x FCF). Implies insurance trading ~3x. Embedded rate hedge to boot.
$ADSK isn’t cheap.
Nor should a quasi-monopoly growing 18%, with 92% Gross margins, enormous embedded income statement investment, and which likely grow substantially >GDP w/ high contribution margins until my 1yr old has a college diploma, be.
AWS outage demonstrates the potential resiliency of an intelligently architected cloud network. $NFLX operates in the impacted AWS US East 1 region, but is up and running. NFLX can move from one AWS region to another in a few min - often w/o impacting video streams due to its CDN
Broken clocks are right twice a day and Jeremy Granthams perma bear calls are right once a cycle. A timeline and cautionary lesson for investors:
2010: Grantham sells stocks out of the financial crisis, saying stocks are now overvalued:
$SNOW's Slootman: customers foray into AI has been experimental, it's expensive, there's no clear business model yet to pay for it
"We cant unleash AI & have no business model to pay for it. People will get tired of that really quick. GPUs aren't cheap, as powerful as they are."
Feels like you’re stealing businesses @ current prices in Telco/media ( $WBD $CHTR $DIS ), home/construction ( $FERG $FND $LOW $HD ), semiconductors ( $ON $LRCX $KLAC $TSM ). Software companies I never thought I’d own I can now get to hurdle IRRs w/ reasonable assumptions.
Surprised but not shocked to see Warren Buffett at MS TMT this year, on the front row to hear Colette Kress explain how early we are in the shift to accelerated computing. It’s now clear that $NVDA is in fact his secret 4Q stock addition.
Giverny capital flies under the radar, but this is one of the most impressive modern records I've seen. Very difficult to find managers who can last 28 years, let alone put up these absolute and relative numbers. Winning in multiple market environments. Hats off.
"Lemonade will acquire Metromile in an all-stock transaction that implies a fully diluted equity value of approximately $500 million, or just over $200 million net of cash"
Buffett had Geico.
I pick
@Metromile
.
The company announced today that it is going public via a SPAC ($INAQ) and I led the PIPE.
This is an incredible company disrupting car insurance and giving customers a best in class experience.
My one pager is attached. 🙏🏽
What are the best financial history books? Just for open exploration of major financial events, not opinion pieces abt the direction of inflation or gold or rates.
@jfc_3_
?
FinTwit will idolize Thoma Bravo while passing on buying good SaaS cos down -50-70% themselves, despite the advantage of no takeout premium, bc of trailing GAAP profits (& pivoting into oil bulls as WTI hits cycle highs). Always investing based on what is vs what is likely to be.
Hard not to be excited abt U.S. housing setup for next several years, and many companies levered to these themes trade at double digit near-term earnings/FCF yields and are aggressively buying back shares
Awesome setup to buy $ORLY $AZO in '18 setup by GFC auto sales cohort and "cash for clunkers". Ideal auto aftermarket customer group declined LSD for 5yrs before inflecting.
Anything like this today in a different industry where trend is set to reverse or data blurs real trend?
A little known & poorly followed company called Amazon Dot Com just reported operating income that was 40% higher than consensus estimates. Sometimes pays to look in the forsaken corners of the market where inefficiencies still exist. $AMZN
$AI grew subscription revenue $4M yoy, or 7%, during an AI bubble.
More impressively it only took an incremental $16M COGS to deliver that revenue, for an incremental gross margin of -300%. Real impressive.
Definitely an AI winner and definitely a software company.
BREAKING: "Roaring Kitty" is set to be a billionaire as GameStop stock, $GME, surges to $67.50/share in after hours trading.
If $GME opens at or above current levels tomorrow, his shares will be worth ~$325 million and options worth ~$700 million for a combined ~$1 billion.
They are right, “Liberty Media has blood on their hands!” But it’s not the blood of puppies, it’s active value investors.
$CHTR $LBRDA $QRTEA $LXSMA $SIRI $TRIP
ROIC matters. $INTC announcement is much better r/r for semicap than Intel. Why? $INTC takes the risk, Semicap has certainty of high-ROIC, aa'l installed base to drive services, gets paid on front end. INTCs ultimate result will be delayed and could be low ROI or even big losses.
Recall that this transaction was contested by shareholders at the time. Kudos to management who defended the sale by saying 1) this is the second most expensive PE SaaS (edtech?) buyout ever and 2) we suck and are failing. $PS
What are the most hated stocks in the market right now not in any sort of financial distress, growing, profitable, and trading at reasonable valuations? $PYPL $ZI $EXPE $DIS $ETSY $DG what else?
Excited for these Super Bowl commercials to stock up on new short ideas
Last years crop of 43 public companies who advertised underperformed the S&P by -15.5% through today. (not counting private mkt flops like FTX). An evenly distributed portfolio returned -23% vs -7% for SPY
Bunch of high quality biz with reasonable stated multiples, poor technicals & consensus too high, but also under-earning so actual multiples are OK. They also seem to be the names everyone is too scared to own while foolishly trying to time the bottom. These are called longs.
The S&P 600 index is:
- -22% below 2021 highs
- -2% YTD
- Never entered a new bull mkt w/ S&P500/NASDAQ this year
- 5.4% 10yr CAGR
- Flat for 5yrs back to Sept’18
If you’re uncomfortable owning a bureau through cycle at ANY price I’ll gladly provide liquidity
$TRU isn’t $VRSK / $FICO qual. but God isn’t making more bureaus & they’ve competed rationally for 60yrs. India asset = 💎. 14x depressed EPS (prob <10x ‘25/‘26) is simply too cheap
What is the cheapest stock you know of on 2024 or 2025 PE/FCF that you think with >80% probability will grow organic Earnings/FCF above nominal GDP for the next decade?
A few $ZI $MKL $LOW $APG $GOOG $CHTR $BRK $PYPL $TSM $SPLK $ARMK $FERG $AMZN
“$ADSK is so critical to the sectors it serves that most burgeoning engineers, architects or contractors are trained on its programs in college. In a field where coordination between different professions is required, the work mandates a de facto industry standard: that's $ADSK.”
Love coming to Omaha, always unexpected and fortuitous conversations had and relationships made that make it worth it. Usually come away with 2-3 good stock ideas to mine. And of course special to be in presence of the undisputed 🐐for as long as he’s able to stay at it.
"Sure its a bad industry w/ LSD growth & increasing competition, but they're better operators, emerging from an investment cycle, will buy gobs of stock for yrs. Yes its levered but incumbents are acting rational & they wont need a major network upgrade for a while."
$CHTR
$TMUS
Oh no, Sheri is screwing over $PARA shareholders and riding into the sunset? She's getting the M&A premium and common shareholders are actually getting more dilution to by SkyDance? Apollo "$26B offer" wasn't rly ironclad? Shocked. I'm just shocked.
Hey friend
@Ross__Hendricks
, just reminding you (as requested) that your negative post on $AMZN marked THE bottom $AMZN in May. It is +36% since. The stock crushed estimates and is +7% AH. TTYL
I personally disagree with this and I think it may be why Buffett missed out on so much of tech. Spreading the data is useful for getting to unit economics, operating leverage, seeing how something in reinvestment mode can be very cheap. Good example would be AMZN for a long time
Tom Russo still talking abt Nestle which has compounded at 6% over the last 9 years, trades at a 33% premium to SPY multiple, and has negative volumes but he’s convinced is invincible vs. PL
$CHTR now <200mm FDSO… they bought back 25mm shares last year at prices much higher than the current $560
If they keep attacking the stock at this pace, we will be looking at $100 FCF/share in 4-5 years from sharecount reduction alone
& FCF will grow a lot
$FERG well run, wide perceived moat, crowded hedge fund hotel, trades 16x fwd PE
Organic revenue is declining slightly for the 2nd year as they burn off pandemic resi excess. Leader in fragmented industry where alternatives are abundant and pricing power is extremely limited.
Seeing a company publicly mock a shareholder for believing LT performance targets, which were in numerous investor materials and filings for years, and which mgmt repeatedly used to divert attention from mediocre operating results, is a first for me in this business. $RBA
Awesome setup to buy $ORLY $AZO in '18 setup by GFC auto sales cohort and "cash for clunkers". Ideal auto aftermarket customer group declined LSD for 5yrs before inflecting.
Anything like this today in a different industry where trend is set to reverse or data blurs real trend?