New episode of my pod Comics Without Tears...with
@MalachiWard
! We talk about the first comics that got him into comics, his history in the industry, working on Black Hammer: The End and the creative process, and much more.
I like the new Dune movies and I’m pumped about part 2, but I wish they were a bit more colorful and psychedelic in their design. Something like these Bruce Pennington book covers (this one is for the Dune Encyclopedia). the movies feel very monochromatic and brutalist.
it’s crazy to me that Peter David simultaneously has a go fund me running for his extremely serious health problems, and also a movie featuring Spider-Man 2099, a character he co-created with Rick Leonardi, was nominated for an Oscar and also had a box office of like 700 mil.
“Superman is unrelatable” is one of the biggest misconceptions the general public has about comics. Superman is very relatable. Who among us hasn’t felt like a stranger in a strange land?
Marvel is so deep into their catalogue of characters that they’re doing Werewolf by Night, and yet DC has yet to even think of touching The Question, a character seemingly made for this unique moment in history when much of the population is mentally ruled by conspiracy theories.
I’m starting to feel like Watchmen adaptations, as they get increasingly more faithful to the source material and replicate it in motion, exist purely so that people don’t have to read. just read the comic. it’s all there on the page. it’s in a book, take a look. reading rainbow.
OpenAI’s latest image generation model, DALL-E 3, makes it SO easy to insult and alienate an entire industry!
Here are 4 panels for a fan-made Batman comic which can’t exist without training on the work of actual human artists and can’t receive copyright under US law.
Enjoy!🔥
@GoranGligovic
also Jesus specifically, explicitly said: don’t pray in public, go into your room, close the door, don’t tweet it to millions of people for engagement
I have no idea what Matthew Perry’s problem with Keanu Reeves is, but I can’t stop laughing at how he repeats the phrase “Keanu Reeves walks among us”. that’s an inherently funny phrase, there’s no denying it.
I like big 2 superheroes as much as the next guy, but here’s the thing…Captain America never wrote a comic book. This compulsive devotion to these characters over real, honest to god human beings, is sad. Nobody writes anything good without putting a piece of their heart in it.
I feel that after Grant Morrison and Alan Moore, no comic writer since has embodied that occult magician archetype they established. No writer of the following generations tried to claim that mantle. It’s sort of a species of comic writer that has gone extinct. Am I wrong here?
Troy came out in May, 2004…which means it’s almost been 20 years, just the right amount of time to do an adaptation of The Odyssey with Sean Bean reprising his role as Odysseus. come on bring Sean home
wait so comic sales have nearly doubled since 2020? that seems crazy. I guess it’s because book stores are carrying more comics? and actually comic shops still made more money as well? what am I missing here? how does this look like “comics are dying”?
what Frank Miller said in 1994, shortly after Jack Kirby died “We couldn’t feed off the genius of Jack Kirby forever. The King is dead, and he has no successor. We will never see his like again. No single artist will replace him.”
the goal should be to make an unfilmable comic…something that employs visuals and panel lay outs so wild that movies and tv can’t hope to reproduce it. not without a billion dollar budget, and even then, you’ll never recreate the gestalt of a comic page in a single frame.
I mean this is a series about a drug that makes you hallucinate the future which acts as the lynchpin for the whole galactic economy and political order…you’d think there could be a splash of color in there, maybe some tie-dye (kidding about that part).
Here’s a sincere, good faith question to Mark Millar and people who support him…what are these bad comics you’re talking about? And please, no vague gesturing towards it. What specifically do you have a problem with? Post examples. And who do you think was unfairly “cancelled”?
I haven’t seen The Flash yet, but riddle me this…is there a single Flash villain in it? A Mirror Master, a Captain Cold, perhaps a Captain Boomerang? Any of the Captains???
Comic Industry Question: What is it exactly that makes you hate/dislike NFT’s? Is it that comics had a speculator bubble in the 90’s which burst and closed 2 thirds of all comic stores, bankrupted Marvel, and devastated the industry? Or are you just afraid of change?
I just looked into this and saw one of this person’s arguments for GM being a weirdo is their comments about the psychosexual subtext of Batman…and not, you know, that they were abducted by aliens, believe in literal magick, and think sunspot cycles dictate cultural trends.
You’re not entitled to a career in comics. If people don’t like your work, if people don’t like you, if they don’t like things you’ve done that have come to light, as they inevitably do…they don’t have to hire you. They don’t have to buy your books. You’re entitled to nothing.
since we’re talking Grant Morrison, their Disinfo speech was prophetic: “The more cameras you put up, the more people will start to act like movie stars. The more people start to act like movie stars, the weirder things get.” they basically predicted the rise of social media.
I just accidentally stumbled on Grant Morrison’s New X-Men pitch. “The X-MEN are every rebel teenager wanting to change the world and make it better. Humanity is every adult, clinging to the past, trying to destroy the future even as he places all his hopes there.” Amazing.
all due respect but Watchmen, the movie, was literally 23 years behind its time (when Moore, Gibbons, Higgins, Wein made the comic).
also there was this little superhero team movie called “X-Men” in 2000, maybe you’ve heard of it. also Mystery Men subverted the idea in 99. also
Christopher Nolan says he believed Zack Snyder’s ‘WATCHMEN’ was ahead of its time.
“The idea of a superhero team, which it so brilliantly subverts, wasn’t yet a thing in movies. It would have been fascinating to see it released post-Avengers.”
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I don’t get why people rage against women in comics when one of the greatest masterminds of the field was Karen Berger…would there be any Vertigo without her? many all time great comics were published on her watch. even their precious Mark Millar got his start on Swamp Thing.
people talk about Grant Morrison and his weirdness, how he was abducted by aliens in Kathmandu, magick, etc. But I rarely hear people mention that Alan Moore has a whole episode on record where he had a conversation with the demon Asmodeus, and even drew a picture of it.
what I find interesting (and a little sad) about Mark Millar is that he has the money to make any comic he could ever dream of…and he spends his time calling people “cancel pigs”. if I had Millar’s resources, I would publish 50 comics a year, maybe more.
the Eisners should be a live streamed event. these are the Oscars of comics, and you can’t even see video of it? this is the 21st century. the future is now
since people are talking about The Prisoner (and Christopher Nolan potentially remaking it which I hope he does), may I remind you that Jack Kirby once worked on a comic book adaption of The Prisoner
why do people have such a problem with Alan Moore? I honestly don’t get it. he seems like a delightful old man. okay fine, he is critical of the comic book industry…but what do you want, no criticism? criticism is good actually. it’s how we improve things.
Superman is relatable because he’s emotionally vulnerable, but physically invulnerable. It’s really a rather simple and elegant equation. Who can’t relate to the idea of not worrying so much about your own physical well being, but caring deeply about the ones you love?
“The thing the ecologically illiterate don't realise about an ecosystem is that it's a system. . . .The untrained might miss that collapse until it was too late. That's why the highest function of ecology is the understanding of consequences.” -Dune, Frank Herbert.
do you think Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons were inspired by Charles Duke, youngest man to walk on the moon at 36, leaving a photo of his family on the moon when they made the image of Dr. Manhattan’s photo on Mars? they look strikingly similar to me, complete with nearby footprints
Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster were both 23 years old when Action Comics 1 was published…and they created the character five years earlier when they were in high school. Two high school kids, both sons of immigrants, basically invented the superhero out of whole cloth. Incredible.
Frank Miller said about TDKR, "When I did the first one, I was very much rebelling against all the established stuff, like the old TV show. Just how lame all the stuff had become." I think today, the task is to rebel against Miller himself, rather than do TDKR for the tenth time.
this idea that “Superman is unrelatable because he’s powerful” is a self fulfilling prophecy. It’s like quicksand: you fight against the idea of unrelatability, but that only makes the character more unrelatable. I say don’t worry about that. Embrace the character and sincerity.
we’re very close to 300 backers for HOLY WEST 2, second issue of my and
@Danielirizarri
’s old west comic. back the Kickstarter and take us over 300! here’s a pin up in the book by Dan which features Rosa, one of the main characters. if you like this, you’ll love the whole book.
I hope Dune 2 is a huge hit so that when they do Dune Messiah, there will be millions of people who are like “wait Paul is bad? that would mean I misunderstood the whole point of the first movies…and that obviously can’t be the case…”
I’ve been holding back on tweeting this page from Holy West until it was available to buy, which it now is at spacewalkcomics dot com…it’s been tough to not share it.
@Danielirizarri
did incredible work here. gotta be one of the best pages of comics I’ve ever been involved with.
I think you should criticize Grant Morrison, and they would totally agree with that sentiment. But a weirdo? What’s wrong with being a weirdo? Weird, for lack of a better word, is good. Weird is right. Weird works. and I will die on this hill.
the crazy thing about the comic industry is that a creator owned book that sells under 10k copies in stores will be cancelled, considered a failure, and will put the creators in the red…but if I sell 1,000 copies of Holy West directly to you, I would consider that a huge success
Check out the 1st page of
@dillonsnookart
’s short story with colors by
@Danielirizarri
in HOLY WEST 2! this one focuses on The General, an ex-Union soldier turned outlaw. Dillon did an amazing job on it…he’s a superstar. RT and back the campaign!
I’d like to see an end to this “who can become the most jacked” arms race in comic movies. Look at Hugh Jackman in X-Men. Just a normal, mildly muscular, human man. 15 years later in Days of Future Past: he’s yoked beyond belief. His veins have veins. Is this really necessary?
Gnostic Jesus Christ once appeared to Morrison before their sick bed and told them “I am the hidden stone that breaks all hearts”. then they made a deal with the disease itself to write it into a comic if it let them survive. but sure their comments about Batman make them weird
HOLY WEST
#2
is live now on Kickstarter! Check out the trailer, and please RT and back the campaign! The Grail is out there in the Old West...find it with us.
@MadDashiell
I don’t dislike them, I just don’t LOVE them the way I wish I did. I’m pretty much determined to like these movies tho…in fact you could say I’m predetermined to like them, haha
I’ve been ruminating on Mark Millar’s comments that legendary comic writers should come back, and in essence, save comics. We forget: Millar was 25 when he started on Swamp Thing. Imagine if the attitude back then was “Sorry, we only hire older established legends. No new talent”
what is it with dudes and Batman? why do you love the character so? is it because most Batman writers refuse to have him use his wealth for Gotham’s infrastructure and social programs? educate me
(but don’t say “oh have you read ____” because I prob have and/or don’t care)
I think maybe the appeal of this “occult magician” archetype was sincerity. You get a sense that Moore/Morrison believed this stuff. They’re not trying to be cool or chase clout…they’re being real. Take Morrison’s Disinfo speech. This is not a person who is scared to look silly.
Bill Willingham claims that Fables in the public domain doesn’t include “the right to reprint previously published Fables books and stories.” um actually, that’s exactly what it means. if it’s public domain…it’s public domain. you don’t get to issue caveats and conditions.
On Substack: this is the biggest venture capital push into comics in history. Substack has huge investment and is valued at 650 mil. That’s what signing these names is about. Substack has to grow in subscribers/revenue, and show Silicon Valley investment that they’re worth it.
it’s wild that Robin hasn’t been in a live action movie since 1997. nearly 27 years and no Robin, a character that I would argue is one of DC’s most iconic. Robin is really the last major area of Batman mythology that hasn’t gotten the modern, grim and gritty, realistic take.
it looks like the real story here isn’t “writer self inserts” or “wokeness” in comics, but maybe that book stores are competing a little more aggressively with comic stores? probably selling graphic novels which are more economical than floppies? just spitballin’ here
hot take: I don’t like “comics will break your heart” as a Jack Kirby quote. I like this: “The characters represent a transcendent feeling we all have inside us. We could do better. We want to do better. We have the time to do better. That we could be the people that we lionize.”
so far, the only answer I’ve received for the “unfairly cancelled” part of this is…you guessed it, Warren Ellis. which, I’m sorry, I’m not buying it. if that’s the best example they’ve got, then cry me a river, worlds smallest violin, etc etc.
Here’s a sincere, good faith question to Mark Millar and people who support him…what are these bad comics you’re talking about? And please, no vague gesturing towards it. What specifically do you have a problem with? Post examples. And who do you think was unfairly “cancelled”?
what do these “comics are woke now!” people suggest as a solution? clearly they think there’s something deleterious about comics which could corrupt young readers, something to be morally worried about. do they want the industry to be regulated? maybe adopt some sort of…code?
how is it possible that Elon paid 44 billion for Twitter? just putting that into perspective: Disney bought Star Wars for 4 billion, and Marvel for 4 too. You’re telling me Twitter, a company that makes no money, is worth more than 5 times Star Wars and Marvel COMBINED?!
I’ve seen talk of Substack democratizing comics. I disagree. The democratization of comics is Kickstarter. Substack is top down investment. Venture capital betting big on the biggest names in comics to get a return on investment. KS is bottom up: readers funding comics. Not VC.
@Bigmancomics
@BBally81
thank you for answering this way, I now know I shouldn’t engage with you, you just saved me a bunch of time and mental energy. seriously I appreciate it, hope you are having a good holiday season
Grant Morrison once said about their house, “It swallows light. There was a séance in the backroom, and the place never recovered. We keep changing the bulbs, but they won’t turn on.” We know they’re weird, that’s why we like them, we thought that was abundantly clear.
it’s wild that I can’t find any articles about this Ed Piskor stuff? maybe I’m missing it, there’s really no comics news site of record in the way that there sort of was in the past, and it is the weekend I guess. but honestly, there should probably be somebody covering this.
I’ve been thinking about that retailer video, and listened to Millar’s interview with him. I want to address one thing he said about comics “You go in there to escape the real world.” I know people are critical of Stan, and fair enough, but here’s what he said about escapism.
“It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need.” -Alan Moore
what if a comics publisher did an early Netflix style deal where you subscribe and pay 10 dollars a month, and you get, let’s say 5 comics of your choice mailed to you? im just spitballin’ here, no wrong ideas
I could see pitching The Question to executives as…he’s like the wildly popular character Rorschach, but without the baggage of being a psychopath. and you can put “from the co-creator of Spider-Man” on all your marketing. maybe even just “creator” if you want to be provocative.
ultimately, no amount of rebooting universes or resetting things “back to basics” as a jumping on point will attract new readers in the long run, in a sustainable, enduring way. innovative work that takes risks is the only thing, in my view, that will draw readers and keep them.
I could see The Question as a series on HBO Max…True Detective meets Batman. in a time when The Boys is successful (something NO ONE would predict when the comic was actually coming out), it doesn’t seem that crazy. I’d even say, slap “from the co-creator of Spider-Man” on it.
@Prof_Werneck
BR2049 was pretty colorful at times…I do wonder if a more brutalist aesthetic fits a cyberpunk world more. there’s a brutalist building in there, I think it was the memory design facility, that I just love.
@malonine
I honestly think the reason is…if they have to say explicitly what they have a problem with, it doesn’t make them look so great, and reveals all of this to be a moral panic. overwrought handwringing over things they don’t like politically.