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Ty France was on foul territory today
- said in off szn players didn’t know whether to be excited or frustrated. Said polo/garv additions fired guys up but seems like losing Geno was really hard for the guys to come to terms with
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Mitch Haniger now has a higher wRC+ and OPS+ than Jarred Kelenic
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So team that led league in runs and team that led league in era both missed the playoffs
The Diamondbacks leading the league in runs and not even making the postseason is wild
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Mariners Fangraphs preseason wRC+ projections vs current
Julio 132 / 93
France 114 / 105
Garver 113 / 76
JP 112 / 88
Raleigh 110 /101
Polanco 108 / 79
Raley 106 /102
Canzone 104 /101
Urias 104 /76
Haniger 101 /85
Moore 97 / 136
Rojas 92 / 121
Really unbelievable
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First order of business this off szn is talking Edgar into returning
2nd is getting Carlos Santana or Justin Turner
Then get to work on finding an impact bat at 3b and/or 2b
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Mariners are 1-10 in last 11 against angels/tigers
If we miss the playoffs you can point to those 11 as why
Even go 6-5 which wouldn’t be great and you’re sitting on a 3.5 game lead
It’s killing the season being unable to beat those 2 teams
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There’s no reason not to call up Cole young
Season is shot and I can’t watch Dylan Moore play everyday
Time to start playing the kids where it makes sense
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What a run for Garver since 6/6
228 wRC+
3 HR
.471 SLG
29% BB%
17% K%
He's locked in. Walking bc chasing absolutely nothing
Not whiffing nearly as much so K's are down
and contact is loud
Hope he can ride this heater out a little longer
since walk off vs ATL: 118 wRC+
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Julio is so locked in right now
Would love to see this version of Julio in a playoff series
C’mon baseball gods let it happen
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Sounds like ownership greenlit additional budget for Vlad if we could’ve got him
HOPEFULLY that’s a good sign for 2025 as he obviously would’ve cost $$ then too
It’s time for Stanton to drastically increase payroll this off season
*dreams of Juan soto*
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I’ve seen enough
Get 40 year old Justin Turner back next year
What a finish to the season for him
Just a professional hitter
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I can usually follow that moves Scott makes
But that 8th was so dumb
1. Pulling Gilbert was dumb
2. Stanek over santos is dumb
3. Voth over even Baumann 3rd day in a row was dumb
Scott blew it
Hitters blew it
Voth blew it
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Julio is slugging .335 this year
Tim Locastro career slug is .337
Julio is slugging like a guy who is a fringe mlb player & gets opps due to speed
Just an unfathomable power outage this year
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Divish on
@MarineLayerPod
said he believes the mariners will address the batters eye in the off szn
Hope it helps
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On the pre game show Shannon drayer commented that Raleigh told her last night that Justin Turner isn’t just a player & that he’s a coach too
If he wants to play another season I’d love for it to be in Seattle
Not to ink him as starting 1b/dh
But a veteran who mixes in AND
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Looks like Dallas keuchel is starting against rangers today
Dipoto the genius sent brewers an arm to shut down the rangers!
Chess not checkers
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Just listened to Luke raley post game from weekend and a comment re: Turner
“I asked him if he wanted to play next year and he said yes & then I asked where and he said here and I got really excited”
Get him back and soon in the off szn Jerry
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Mariners likely 2025 lineup w/o additions
Robles RF
Julio CF
Raleigh C
Arozarena LF
Raley 1b
Locklear DH
Crawford SS
Bliss 2b
Moore 3b
Quite a bit of work needed in bottom half of the lineup
**assuming Rojas is non tendered & polo option not picked up **
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Divish on the puck podcast said when mariners made the santos trade they also inquired about Luis Robert but white Sox didn’t want to move him at that time
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The mariners really gotta do something with the batters eye after reading the teo article
Honestly makes so much sense
Would likely impact our pitching some but those guys have such good stuff they’d be fine
Worth it to try & help our hitters tho IMO
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Mariners are counting on a fella by the name of dick fitts to go out and shutdown the twins tonight
Go Mr. Fitts I’m rooting for you
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I want Vlad Guerrero so badly
Feels like his floor is 120 wRC+
He’s a feared hitter that doesn’t strikeout
His ceiling his that the results start to match this batted ball profile
He isn’t cheap at $19M but he’s a perfect fit
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Right heel fracture for France you’ve got to be kidding me
Quick Google search says 3-4 months minimum
So his season is quite possibly done
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Paul Sewald fWAR: 0.3
Canzone/rojas/bliss: 2.9
Dbacks would likely make that trade again but man I don’t want to know what this offense would look like w/o those 3
All 3 have made positive contributions & Rojas in particular has been critical to the success so far
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Barring a crazy comeback on Skubal the mariners will be 2-10 against the marlins/angels/tigers during this collapse
0-5 at home unreal
Even going 7-5 they’d be in great shape
Just insane
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JOSH SMITH WALK OFF BOMB AGAINST THE ASTROS
DOWN TO THEIR LAST OUT AND HE PUNISHES CALEB FERGUSON
1.5 GAME LEAD
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Been quietly very good
Still waiting for the 4 HR in 10 game stretch but he’s in a really solid spot right now
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Could the Astros have got any luckier?
Pivetta scratched yesterday
Paxton hurt after 2 hitters today
Tyler O’Neill hurt
Devers for some reason given today off
wtf are the Red Sox doing
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Man Victor Robles is so damn fun
So glad he came out of that slump is smoking hot again
Just an incredible season for him
Excited to see what he does in 2025
No way it’s this good again but possible he’s just found something & isn’t just platoon bat
Huge if so
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Julio goes off tonight
No doubt about it
Mark June 29th as the day it turned for him in 2024
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Yankees 3-7 over last 10
Orioles/mariners 4-6 over last 10
Maybe this is just the time of the year all the AL heavyweights go thru a rough patch!?!?
Yes this is cope
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JP Crawford had a rough 6 game stretch to start season
Since 4/6
129 wRC+
Was turning it around before injury & he’s picked up where he left off
Huge getting JP back & productive at the leadoff spot
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Vlad Guerrero savant page is an absolute thing of beauty
Bring him to Seattle
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Towards the end of this clip Jeff passan mentions that going back several years some issues between Scott & clubhouse were never resolved and some players were never on board with him
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Really Garver??
Pretty fitting we are going to lose this game bc Garver and JP 3x have not got a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs
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Yimi Garcia enters a game down 2
Thought we don’t pitch leverage arms when behind Scott?
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Can someone plz outbid for Bregman??
I like this whitcomb fella at 3b
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Yikes
Sadler seems to back up Maybin story of Scott not being a great communicator
Tells a story of Servais just ignoring him at a charity event for no reason
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Twins collapse is insane. Can’t believe we caught them
Along w/ our own doing, the tigers 32-11 stretch kept us out of playoffs
Even if they go 28-15 we are likely headed to Houston next Tuesday
Pain
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Don’t know if something to this or just Morosi yapping
Hoerner is basically a league avg bat
He doesn’t strikeout & is great defender & can steal bags
Career .275 avg & .338 OBP
Main point is would reduce strikeouts
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Here is what we know about the mariners
- starting rotation is so damn good they can carry this team
- pen shaky at times but overall it’s fine
- offense is mostly a mess w/ occasional glimmers of hope
Keep stacking as many wins as possible prior to the deadline
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Doug eddings needs to be investigated
Now completely squeezes Baumann after what he did to JP last inning
wtf is actually going on
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Spring 2025 can’t get here soon enough
Hope for good health & good development this off szn for the returners next year
And hope ownership steps up and whoever is in GM seat brings in the right players
Need playoff baseball in 2025 like I need air
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Losing a series at Cleveland when their win% at home is like .710 doesn’t bother me
But losing a Castillo/allen matchup is frustrating
Now 5-3 after Naylor drills a 2b
Castillo not fooling anyone
Gotta stop the bleeding asap - unlikely to get much against guardians pen
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Rangers lose in extras to get swept in Milwaukee!!
Now for the Astros to slow down….
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PRETTY GOOD!!
That 11-3-1 series stretch almost is 2 months of baseball
For as frustrating as this team can be at times they’ve played some pretty damn good baseball to win that many series
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Couple things
When polo was struggling he wasn’t hitting fastballs, at all - this was 97 mph
Pitch is slightly down out of zone
Pretty insane pitch to hit 400 feet like polo did here
And so awesome it’s on a heater
Def seems like polo is back to being polo
Jorge Polanco hit a 400 foot bomb and Robles is screaming his head off LMFAO
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I gave dipoto a B at the deadline and I think we are seeing why
Chargois & Yimi have been real good out of pen
Randy 144 wRC+
Turner 111
JT has been exactly as advertised
The other 3 have been impact additions so far
But it wasn’t an A bc could’ve went further
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Oh god I haven’t considered this
It’s 100% happening
Stars are aligning
I appreciate the Astros keeping the Mariners alive, but I'm going to need the Mariners to not let them clinch the West against us in Houston if they're going to stay in it.
The visual of that might break my soul.
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Bullpen injuries have been brutal all szn
Brash & santos basically nothing and Speier shoulder injury early
Those were 2-4 options at start of spring
Then you go get Yimi Garcia & his arm gets soggy almost immediately
Brutal injury luck
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Damn so he’s done
Disappointing mariners tenure for yimi
Yimi García (right elbow inflammation) has been shut down from throwing after coming out of a bullpen session the other day not feeling great.
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A Ty France bounceback in 2024 is so
Badly needed since we now know impact reinforcements aren’t coming. Need him to be an impact bat then hope reinforcements simply lengthen lineup & more depth
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Pretty bothered Scott didn’t go Munoz in the 9th. Defeatist attitude & shows zero faith as his thinking is either
“We can’t score a single run”
OR
“Can’t risk using Munoz down 1 bc if we have leads next 2 nights it’ll be by just 1 or 2”
Can’t manage that way all the time
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I don’t think it’s a bad idea for Jerry to pursue a left handed starter with good stuff at deadline
Facing teams like guardians & twins turn into bad matchups w/o one
Or go get a Tanner Scott, that way in playoff series you hope you’ve got sauce, Speier, Scott to help
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Glad France is back!!!
Bit surprised Seby is DFA’d
Will require a tad more catching from Garver but I think that’s ok
Wonder how much Locklear actually plays
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@Mariners
roster moves:
🔹 Ty France, INF, reinstated from 10-day Injured List.
🔹 Seby Zavala, C, designated for assignment.
Read more:
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What a FANTASTIC job by Thornton to get out of that mess
Needed a win and got it
Not a good road trip but feels good ending with a win
Couple tough close losses on the trip & plenty of sloppy play
Hopefully some home cooking gets the boys back on track - won’t be easy
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Looking good
Not sure where he slots into lineup if Haniger and raley are going well but it’s a nice option to have - especially against a pitcher that is fastball heavy
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Really great homestand for canzone who had been struggling
7-15 with a HR
3 walks to 4 Ks
OPS up to .722 which isn’t great but it’s playable
Hope he can keep it rolling on the road trip
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This mariners roster is far from perfect but man are they fun
Some of those imperfections I believe will be smoothed out
But even as is this is a fun team
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@TheeNelDog
Never expected him to light world on fire but coming here and immediately striking out way more is odd
He’s never done that
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Solid deadline
If the rays hold on to Yandy Diaz I’m ok with them being done as there isn’t impact otherwise
If Yandy IS moved tho it won’t sit well with me
Can only trade for guys avail & so far they’ve done well based on known availability as of this minute
Barring an unexpected development in the next 45 minutes, Mariners are done.
Final tally on M's trades:
IN:
Randy Arozarena
Yimi Garcia
Justin Turner
JT Chargois
OUT:
Ryne Stanek
Jonatan Clase
6 minor-leaguers
(Ty France)
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If mariners play even just ONE game over .500 the rest of the way to go 88-74
The rangers or Astros would have to finish 56-33 to pass us
That’s a 102 win pace
Not saying they’re incapable of that but that’s a tall task
Down go the rangers after being up 6-2
What a freaking night
Mariners great game 1 win at guardians
Astros lose 2-0 to white Sox
Rangers blow big lead
10 game lead
TEN GAMES
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MLB radio just made a great point
All the mariners players wake up this morning to this news with a new bounce in their step with front office going to get help
They badly needed that boost
Let’s see if it helps them play better in Chicago
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I couldn’t be more impressed by Ryan bliss at bats
Feel strongly he needs regular at bats vs righties too
Interesting tools & if he adapts well to mlb pitching & quickly he’s a legit player now for us
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13-9 in Dan Wilson era
7 losses by 1 run
2-0 loss vs cards
7-3 loss to cards
They’ve played pretty good baseball over last 22 games
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After a somewhat rough May where Bryce miller posted a 5.22 ERA & allowed 4+ ER in 3/5 starts
He’s posted 2 good outings in a row
6 IP, 0 ER
6 IP, 2 ER
hopefully he can keep that trend going & mariners can get game 1 tonight
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In what world did Scott think it’s ok to pitch to devers??
Diaz isn’t a strikeout pitcher so that’s not likely
Devers run at 1st doesn’t matter so don’t have to worry there
One of the dumbest coaching decisions I’ve maybe ever seen
It’s obvious what to do
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Tigers & royals go 12-1 against white sox
Mariners go 5-8 against angels
That right there was the season
7 games lost against the worst team in your division
Will never get over our 1-8 finish against the angels - we led in quite a few of those games to
And white Sox suck
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Down go the rangers after being up 6-2
What a freaking night
Mariners great game 1 win at guardians
Astros lose 2-0 to white Sox
Rangers blow big lead
10 game lead
TEN GAMES
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Thought Jonathan Hernandez looked really encouraging yesterday
Had 4 swinging strikes in 1 inning of work
Pitch Usage w/ texas:
Slider 50%
Sinker 40%
Change 10%
Yesterday:
Slider 50%
Sinker: 32%
Change: 18%
Slight uptick in Change usage & it looked good to my eye
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Damn Robles .480 xBA on that out
Numbers are good in mariners uniform but should probably be even better
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Absolutely incredible
Need to get him extended
Have to remember he’s only 26 and was a top prospect in baseball
Talent has always been there & clearly is comfortable in the mariners organization
Victor Robles since joining the Seattle Mariners has become a Top 10 hitter in all of baseball.
No, this isn't a typo.
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This offense was setup to be led by Julio as the superstar he's been in his first 2 years
Backed up by the rest being good not great hitters, but no glaring holes
That quite simply hasn't happened - Julio has been below avg
All but TWO hitters are below projections
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Absolutely unreal
Been a legit ace the back half of season
This staff is so good that at diff parts of season you could make a case for all 5 they’re the ace
Bryce Miller's last 15 starts:
1.94 ERA, 0.91 WHIP, 86 K over 88 IP
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I’ll be surprised if Scott is the manager Friday night
Hard to survive this road trip after the way this season has went
Can argue whether it’s warranted but it feels likely
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EXTENSION TIME
Victor Robles on his time with Seattle:
“I like it here. I like playing here, I like the fans, the vibes I feel here are really good. Really, I would like to stay here.”
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Garver splits this year
No reason to DFA him since he can catch & has really good numbers against lefties
Just simply slide him to backup catcher & if a LH is on the mound, you consider him at DH
tough year but doesn’t mean he can’t add value if deployed properly
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Atta boy sauce!!!
5 in a row
8-1 in last 9
Wasn’t pretty. Didn’t score after the 4th. Shaky pitching late
Now let’s hope Munoz ankle/back is ok
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Pathetic at bat by Haniger
My god
2 really hittable pitches
Stares at one and Misses the other
Shouldn’t be hitting at all
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Season over
Wish this group had just one more week to chase the royals down
Ran out of time due to a long & frustrating slide
Bummer
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Mariners are 9-2 in last 11 games in Houston
7-4 overall in 2024
Went 9-4 overall in 2023
Seem to match up pretty well with them if only could pass them in standings
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JP!!!!!
Let’s go!!!!!
Another brutal loss for Astros
Win tomorrow you basically undo all the ground the Astros gained during their hot streak
Gilbert/arighetti is a big mismatch in our favor
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Wow twins down 9-2 in game 2
Damn woo implosion, would be tied with twins if we won today and just 1 back of twins and royals
Go 5-1 next week want see if it’s enough
Need twins to go 3-3 and one of other 2 to go 2-4
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Randy Arozarena since 5/3
124 wRC+
.343 OBP
.407 SLG
14% BB%
24% K%
Hitting .308 in June
His overall numbers are pulled down by an atrocious April
Also feels like a player that lives for the big moment & knows how to produce in them
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Excited about arozarena deal & will even be more excited if we land 3 more hitters and a reliever
By himself it’s not nearly enough
But glad we jumped the market on a hitter
Time to keep going tho
If jays made Vlad available we could really improve the outlook
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Mariners org need to figure out how to keep Edgar around next year
Feel he’s the perf hitting coach on staff to balance out some of the new age hitting stuff by reminding guys approach/game plan and just competing still matters in the box
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Doug eddings has been absolute dog shit all night
In some critical moments too
Now he gets to toss JP who he’s hosed over at least 4 times tonight
Fire his ass
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Ohhhhh my god
Andy Ibanez bases clearing double off Hader with 2 strikes & 2 outs
Can’t believe Hader didn’t show the slider with Ibanez fouling the heaters off
TIGERS!!!!
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Stud
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@TyDaneGonzalez
100%
I mean he pitched to devers bottom 10 with first open in a tied game…
No way he would’ve put a 2nd runner on in extras in top half of inning
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If we wear anything but city connect in future games I’m rioting and going on strike against the org
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For those who think I always defend Jerry
This Brant brown hire & failure 100% falls on him
If it wasn’t a good fit he owns that
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