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Josh Heinlen
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@FlatEarthZone In this photo we do see a slope. Look at the starting point, and look at the ending point. The atmosphere is no longer at the end point like it is the starting point. Which goes to show how massive earth is.
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@krassenstein @kevin_smith45 A charge means to accuse someone of something. A criminal charge means to accuse someone of doing something criminal. Learn legal verbatim bright one.
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@ZeekArkham I am a Trump voter, and I have massive friends that are Trump voters, and every last one of us are happier than shit with all of the things Trump has done so far. We are praying that we can see some traitors sent to Guantanamo. That will really tell us Trump means business.
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@FlatEarthZone What you aren't understanding is that even though earth is moving at 1000mph, it's only completing 1/24th of a revolution in that time frame.
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If you notice, it starts out as a pillar of smoke touching the wall. Then it starts adding volume to the plume as more and more smoke hits the wall touching a larger and larger volume of wall. Not only is this building up pressure near the wall, but it's also causing the pillar of smoke to hit the "combined wall and smoke" at a closer distance to the syringe. Adding more overall force.
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As you have said, if the thrust is to weak the object won't move, even if gas is coming out of it. We see that the smoke from the syringe tunnels towards the wall rather than dissipating in the chamber all around. The moment the smoke touches the wall, you see the syringe now can move. The wall provides resistance. Which brings up the pressure of the smoke that leads to the syringe. Once enough pressure is attained, the syringe moves.
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You still have to overcome forces though . You can lift something up till you overcome the forces pulling it down. It won't move till you do. And I the video, there is a certain amount of force pulling the syringe down. The syringe isn't going to move until that bare minimum force is overcame. Sure, eliminate the forces acting upon it, then yea, the syringe should move if gas was coming out of it like that, and like your analogy with throwing a ball. But even when throwing a ball while on a skateboard, before moving can take place, other forces must be overcome for that to happen.
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Comparing it to a jet traveling faster than the speed of sound, it still travels a lot faster than the jet, and it's going a lot farther distances than the jet. The jet is traveling smaller distances compared to a satellite in orbit. But the satellites in orbit are still maintaining a faster visual speed across the horizon than a jet. This allows you to deduce that the satellites are traveling extremely freaking fast lol.
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The object does produce an immediate reaction force. You just cannot see it. Its like you trying to push a bar with heavy weights that you can't lift. You can push the bar all you like, but it isn't moving until you apply enough force to overcome gravity. And yes, we do see it overcomes gravity after it hits the wall. When the smoke hits the wall, it does provide additional force to the syringe since the wall does provide resistance. Potentially, the force provided is just enough to start the syringes motion. Is that not possible to you?
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@snizzle2013 @GhostGone420 I don't know. I would have to see it. But from the perspective of the moon video you showed, if it was a satellite, it would move a lot faster I would think from what I have seen.
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@snizzle2013 @GhostGone420 But you aren't factoring in gravity in this experiment. If the gas being expelled doesn't equate to a force greater than the gravitational downward force, then how can it move? The force is being negated.
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Now I am not claiming NASA isn't a fraud. I am claiming that I personally seen the ISS from the ground at 5AM in the morning. It looked like a UFO the way it was moving across the sky so fast. But it was definitely the ISS. Itoved the same way the array of Starlink satellites moved. Which I am assuming is over 17500 mph.
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@snizzle2013 @GhostGone420 That's not a satellite moving across the moon. Satellites move a lot faster. You never seen the Starlink satellites move across the sky at night? Maybe look up a few videos. They start at one end of the sky and move across it to the other end within a minute or two.
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I have seen not only the international space station, but I have seen an array of Starlink satellites fly by in the middle of the night while in orbit. And they weren't balloons moving at the speeds I seen. They were moving impossible fast in a straight line. Now, you are right about me being incorrect about force needing to equal the mass of the object to move it noticeable. That came out wrong lol. But the force acting on the object needs to be great enough to see a noticeable change. Or else you could be seeing changes at nanometers per second squared which you would never notice. Also the video you show isn't an object in space. So energy can be sapped from it through gravitational forces. The only way the syringe can move in video is when the force overcomes the gravitational force. Which coincidentally coincides with the smoke pushing against the glass. Which to me means that the pressure wasn't great enough when the smoke was exiting the syringe to overcome the gravitational forces till it hit the wall on the chamber. Regardless, the syringe doesn't move initially because it hasn't yet overcome gravitational forces
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@snizzle2013 @GhostGone420 For it to be noticeable, mass x acceleration = force, and the force need to equal the mass of the object. And in this experiment there is a downward force on the object im the vacuum from gravity that it also needs to overcome.
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