#RenewCastlevania
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🍌🐟 / they-them / 30 yo / pro shipper /🔞Multishiper / Trigun 2023 / JJK / Banana Fish / talks about problematic ships in fanart and fanfics
Joined May 2018
If somebody ever tries to make you feel bad for writing a problematic fic just remind them that Game Of Thrones was the most-watched tv show in the last 10 years and had every problematic trope under the sun, it was seen by millions of people and nothing happened.
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"NSFW fanfics make me uncomfortable". "Oh ok then, just don't read them". "But you like them?". "Yes I do". "But it makes ME uncomfortable!". "It's not for you". "BUT IT EXISTS AND PEOPLE LIKE IT AND I MUST BAN IT FROM EXISTENCE!!!". "ONE LAST TIME; JUST. DONT. READ. IT!!!!".
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@milfreplyguy This is basically every shounen series, the writers don't know how to make the female love interest interesting or give them any meaningful development and screen time but the protag and his rival get backstory episodes describing their thirst for each other but it's all no homo.
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"Why do fan artists draw nasty fanart, why can't they draw art I like and approve of only? Why can't I get the content I want " . You know you can in fact commission fan artists to draw what you like, it's that simple. "But I want free art" . Well then go fuck yourself.
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@funandnormal As a child born in Yugoslavia ( that no longer exists ) lucky to have survived a war oddly enough Princess Mononoke was the only Ghibli movie that we had in video stores, so this movie stayed with me and was personal to me for so many reasons. My man Miyazaki just freaking knew.
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@SimplyNovology Banana Fish ( 2018 ) , the manga it was based on has issues with drawing black characters properly ( since it came out in the 80s ) , the anime fixed it by a long shot.
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@literallysofie Overcharging white tourists is always morally good and correct, I support it fully.
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@fubroshi Western gays: ONLY Asian gays can write BL. *gay Asian men write BL*. Western gays: OH MY GOD THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC AND SEXUAL WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU. *Asian women write BL*. Western gays: You disgust me by writing BL that I enjoyed reading until I found out you are not a man.
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@baddreemurr @DigiDyson *Attack on titan can't be political* . Meanwhile, the whole series is political AF, what are these people watching it for even?????.
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@pk_kenzie This is why I hate people making an uproar because of dark fictional content when something based on a real crime comes along and is actually problematic people will think it's just "complaining over dark fiction" again and I hate thissssss.
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@eijiroukirish "Those two characters aren't even in the same series or universe, how does this ship make any sense????" . It's called ✨ imagination ✨. fanfiction baby, do you read it.
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@kellysketches @BS_artsss I can't wait to play as Ethen Winters and develop Stockholm syndrome for tall vampire lady ( I don't know what the actual plot of the game is but I hope its that ).
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I am getting sick and tired of young women in fandoms being casually misogynistic toward older women and it's being presented as woke™.It's not a good thing, you won't get woke points for calling somebody a mom or a hag.It's just gonna make me want to mute whatever you're saying.
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Repeat after me:. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏.
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"What would your parents say if they knew you where reading problematic kink fics on AO3". Why would I a grown-ass consenting adult care what my parents ( who I don't live with anymore ) would think about the kind of fanfics I read in my free time?.This shaming ain't working.
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@ineedjeezus MURDER IS MURDER, FICTIONAL OR NOT, STOP SHOOTING PEOPLE IN VIDEO GAMES, IT HURTS THE PIXELS, YOUR ALL MONSTERS, FEEL BAD OVER FICTION CUZ I SAY SO IN ALL CAPS.
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@flowercherrypop "30 yo women on stan twitter making fics, fanart and fan content , having a good time in the undead afterlife according to teens"
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*Any popular anime in the last 20 years*. Japan: I will lewd this . Western fandom in 2019: WHERE IS THIS LEWD ART COMING FROM, IT WILL CORRUPT US ALL WE MUST PURGE IT FROM EXISTENCE. IT WILL HAVE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES. Anime fans from the early 2000s: sure it will sweetie.
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@toboldlymuppet I hate this. Before they went all digital with the animation everybody in the crew had a different skin tone, it was unique and added so much, but now it looks washed out and the color brightness turned up, we lost something very precious here.
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If you think it's funny to make fun of people in their late 20s and 30s for having fun in fandoms just cuz of their age plz keep in mind that not everybody has the same opportunity to be happy as you do. If you had controlling parents, you don't get to live until you move out.
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@b00kwormy The ruthless king of cases Sukuna who kills anybody in his path but has a soft spot for one human boy who's life he even saves and can sense when he is in danger ( JJK manga, if they animate more of them it better be gay )
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Don't let Antis ever forget that because of their target harassment over fictional ships, 3 different Jojo artist attempted suicide this year, one of them was a minor, their art was SFW. Don't let them ever forget this happened. This is what bullying does and they are bullies.
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@SimplyNovology Banana Fish a gritty gangster drama anime set in New York , it started airing last week and it will have 24 episodes. The only black characters in the main character cast that we have so far is this baddass cutie and his name is Skip.
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@221BH0LMES "Adults should get off Twitter". I had no idea this was Club Penguin, its so kid-friendly here 😂😂😂 its made for kids it's 17+ in some countries.
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@OverexcitedDrgn "Last time I checked" you mean last time you where too lazy to use google and educate yourself on the topic or even look up basic stuff .
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Fanfiction, in general, will never have the same reach as mainstream media, so go write your problematic smut, GoT exists, there is nothing anybody can tell you.
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Can we just make 2019. the year where content creators and shippers in fandoms are safe from bullying over liking different ships and that if you harass somebody over it you should be kicked out for being a petty and sad human and an entitled shitlord.
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Since this blew up. As fic writers, your job is to put appropriate tags on your work so people who don't want to read problematic stuff can avoid it, that is all. Nobody holds a gun to your head and makes your read problematic content if you read It, it's all on you.
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Somebody just tried to shame me for defending older women in fandoms like ."This bitch is 30 and reads Banana Fish, that series is sooooo problematic " .Banana Fish has been around since the 80s it's a classic, it has fans that are way older them me 😂 nice try kids.
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@lymerlia @violentlyepic Find a photo of him that's not from 20-30 years ago but from 2022 the guy looks like a dying potato. I don't mean to be rude, he was a handsome actor, nobody can deny that but that's not him today.
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Me at 15: Wow I really hope my homophobic parents don't find all the yaoi I have been hoarding on the family PC or those dirty KH fanfics. Teens in fandoms today: I know what 🔞 stands for and I still clicked on it and read the fic, DAMN ADULTS MADE ME DO IT, IT CAN'T BE ME.
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@NarusHusband He hates Goku cuz Goku is everything men want, Goku's wife loves him and he loves her, his kids love him, he is strong af and is happy . None of those things Tate can ever achieve so he can't let men watch Dragon Ball, Goku is a better role model.
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@hotarmaru Twisted Wonderland Twinkified EVERY disney villain and we have Yana Toboso to thank for this.
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@polydinshiro We need to change "I don't like this = it has to be bad" to "I don't like this = it's not for me" . This needs to apply to all fandoms, cuz fandoms in 2020 have some huge problems, people not knowing how to mind their own business.
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@jchengcryinggif Shipping should always be seen as entertainment rather than a how-to guide in actual relationships. It's a fantasys we have about the possible relationship between fictional characters we like in a fully safe environment where we have all the control.
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@catboynoi Everybody: hey minors you shouldn't interact with NSFW fanart content, it's not for you . Minors : WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT LOOK AT THISSS???!!! HOW DARE YOUUU, I CAN DO WHAT I WANT , YOUR NOT MY MOM!!!. Also minors: this NSFW art is making me uncomfortable wahhh 😭. Everybody:
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@ciaraturnerart This kind of mentality is gatekeeping people older than 20 to even try art, excuse me but you don't have to be at your peak with your art at age 15, that is so messed up. Not everybody has the same opportunities in life, let people of all ages make art stop age gatekeeping it.
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@gingermilks @ficdiscourse It's the equivalent as a teen going into a book shop in the erotica section and yelling out loud how they don't like it there as the shop owners are asking them to leave repeatedly.
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@_queerioes "Adult fans in fandoms doing actual research and actual work". Entitled teens in fandoms: "eww how dare they ".
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@carolaverygrant I am so sick of realism in movies that are meant to be fanatical, colorful, and fun. They could have made this movie look colorful beautiful and fun but instead it always looks like the colors were drained and the light was turned off . whyyy 😭😭😭.
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Call me crazy but I will block anybody who makes jokes about how women who ship anime boys should get the electric chair. Being a misogynist doesn't make you quirky or cute and I could care less about what you have to say. Not to mention we are talking about fictional characters.
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@wouldgraham @ficdiscourse Lets not make anime be legally available for westerners anymore, they aren't ready for it.
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@flowercherrypop In conclusion, let women who are 18+ have hobbies ( draw, write, do what makes you happy ladies ). 2020. has been an awful year for everybody, the last thing we all need is casual misogyny tweets on the bird app made by some teenagers for clout.
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People who are new to fandom ,fanfics and who are shocked by the problematic content existing in fics don't know about the struggle of queer kids who wrote problematic fics to express themselves in the early 2000s because gays were not as accepted in fandoms as they are today.
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@viilipino Suggestion: let's gatekeeper ALL problematic manga from western anime fans cuz this happens every single time they discover it exists and it does exist regardless if they like it or not. Funny how it's always about problematic mlm content and never wlw. what's up with that ?.
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@R0saMimi @AmberK4T @RileyKizu I will never not be amazed how much damage Hetalias fanbase did in general, Jesus fucking Christ, I knew it was bad I didn't know it was this bad.
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@nissa_yx "A hot sexy fictional trope where you can safely play out your fantasy about dating your fictional hot teacher in a fanfic". Americans: this is too much, if there is any sort of imbalance in this fictional work, it can't be normal . Meanwhile, porn exists.
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"stop sexualizing Yuri On Ice men, you perverts, it's a wholesome show!!!!! you damn dirty Fujos, you are ruining everything!!! How dare you sexualized YoI". Meanwhile actual Yuri on Ice anime :
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@sugawcras My favourite ship dynamics: Antis x minding their own business. Antis x not making callout posts out of salt. Antis x responsibilities for their actions. Antis x sex therapy ( cuz they hate sexual fantasies so much I keep thinking it's a personal issue they never overcame ).
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@lovedendrobiums You asking them to be responsible for themselves, that too much, they just too helpless until they need to doxx and threaten Asian artists cuz of fanart they don't like then they are fully capable.
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I don't understand people who want to erase NSFW fanart and writers in order to protect minors in fandoms?. You do realise that adult-only spaces have a huge 🔞 on it, so why are you trying to bring minors into spaces where they never belonged in the first place. KEEP EM OUT!.
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"I am an anti cuz I wanna keep the fandoms I am in safe" . WTF? Nobody asked you to. If by "keeping safe" you mean threatening and bullying content creators you don't like then nobody wants you in fandoms. Your the issue here, everybody else knows how to use the block button.
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@alicethebatata The food is peanuts and Antis are allergic to them but are angry at people who aren't allergic and can eat it just fine, they are furious at peanuts 😂. "How can you EAT THAT?! it makes ME sick, I am sensitive "."Um, Becky, I am not you, let me enjoy my peanut smut cake ".
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@madpuppin Me waiting for my illegal shipment of yaoi to arrived at the docks, hoping the yaoi cops don't notice anything.
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@ghostpin1 "Adults in fandoms who let us down. " you should be talking about your actual parents cuz WE DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING YOUR ACTUAL PARENTS DO!!!. My or anybody else's time in fandoms should NEVER be spent babysitting neglected attention-seeking teens. You are NOT our responsibility.
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Stampede episode 3, the Vash and Knives scene in English. "Does their praise cure it? The loneliness. " 🔪💦👀
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"If you like problematic fictional characters you will like problematic people irl". Look, sweetheart, I love anime characters that smoke and I can't even be in the same room as a cigarette smoker irl. Most of us don't like people and enjoy this stuff in fiction only, let us be.
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Fandom teenagers be like " Fandoms should only exist for us let us purge all the fandom adults" . I can bet my ass your parents know nothing of your secret involvement in NSFW spaces.you feel entitled to be there, your parents would take away your internet privileges if they knew.
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Every person in the comments was neglected by their parents about internet safety and got burned and are now blaming nsfw fanart and morally grey fiction instead you know . the people responsible for their upbringing.
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@heartspocky These people don't have homophobic relatives and it shows. "Being gay is so cool and accepting in 2020." Says the privileged white American who's parents can't say no to. It's like the rest of of the world doesn't exist for them . funny that.
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@tellietubbs Do you really like that anime boy or do you really badly just want a ASMR of Hiroshi Kamiya. is a hard one.
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@SucculentBud How many famous YA authors do you think started their careers by writing fanfiction? A whole lot. Do you know why? Cuz good fanfic feedback is good audience building, you make a market for yourself before you ever publish a book. Donate to Ao3 and help future writers ✅.
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And sending death threats in not making a fictional character love you more, they can't love you back, no matter what kind of NSFW art an artist draws and how much it hurts YOUR feelings. FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS 👏.So fuck your feelings you big baby and go outside.
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@stillhangingonn It's this sexiness that gives these fics the spicy flavour found nowhere else. "Are you aware of the power imbalance in your OTP?" .Hunny I am here for it, why do you think I read this stuff in the first place.Some people need to realise that taste is fics is a deliberate choice.
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I think the reason why western fandom gets so up in arms about NSFW art and anime is they have been conditioned by Disney movies all their lives to think animation = family-friendly and same for fan content. Gays can only be pure, art can only be pure, nothing problematic ever.
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Antis "You can't watch that anime, it has that problematic™ thing I don't like". "You CAN watch anime and enjoy it despite its flaws" . Antis " NO! YOUR NORMALIZING IT". Also Antis : "I personally like this anime and I can ignore it's made by a shotacon and is a shota show".
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@XiranJayZhao If your anime character is English they need to talk about how they like their tea ( or food in general ) at least once, must be a noble or a detective . Sherlock Holmes reference, Alice in Wonderland themes, or some connection to the royal family are also a must
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@DishEconomist @EviKuroo That writer took inspiration from BL they admitted to and then turned around and said "my work is better because it's wholesome unlike that disgusting bl made by Asian people" and the western fans still support them, the xenophobia is ok for these people as long as its wholesome.
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Hey, western fandom, I know you like anime but can you not take every fanart made by Japanese artist have to be to your standards? You know maybe just maybe their art isn't for you, or maybe not everything in fandom is either? Other, people, also exist and they aren't like you.
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@RaisaBYisrael @Serya_chan Some people had not been fortunate to enjoy life in their 20, I had to endure hell in my early 20s so now I am 30 and for the first time, I feel like I am enjoying my life. It depends on the person, we don't all get equal opportunities to be happy.
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@CG_Orange_eng I KNOW WHAT I HAVE SEEN !!! you cant convince me otherwise 🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛
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@sixcrws "If you ONLY consume mlm you are bad" says the person who isn't mlm trying to gatekeeper mlm content from people who might see themselves in mlm but are not sure why or how.Let people discover themselves via gay fiction, gatekeeping never helped any closed LGBT+ person.
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"Just because I told a shipper to kill themselves for shipping two popular fictional characters together that I don't personally like doesn't make me a bad person" . No sweetie your not just a bad person, you're the worst kind of person.
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"I hate this ship, why is it so popular???? you people should all die for shipping this trash 😡😡😡😡 I am so angry my ship isn't getting enough attention -". "Ok Anti".
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@HannahTempler I thought that piece of plastic was a halo and that was the ghost of a cat checking in on its owner.
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Somebody is trying to argue with me that if fanfics don't put a "Bad thing is BAD" for problematic content, readers that have been abused will think their abuse was justified.I am like "God forbid you read a book with gray morality and you can't call the author to hold your hand".
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@baddreemurr @DigiDyson Ikr, it's basically the main theme of the whole series, it's the basics of how awful the human race can be to each other with enough hate and prejudice, there aren't even subtle about it in S4 ( so much WW2 imagery ) but nope, anime isn't political to them at all. .
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*Artist draw nsfw fanart*. People who like Nsfw art : hell yes 🔥. People who don't like NSFW art: this makes me slightly uncomfortable so I will mute/block it. Antis: THIS IS ABUSE, THIS NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN, THE ARTIST MUST ANSWER FOR THEIR CRIME, I AM A VICTIM, HOW DARE YOU.
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@chandralialove This guy really REALLY wants to sound deep but is full of BS. Bro have you ever lost a parent or a loved one, go compare that to your favorite anime character dying and if it feels the same you need professional help. Anime characters are meant to entertain us and nothing more.
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a year ago the Banana Fish anime was at the peak of popularity a friend of my who is a fanrtist got bullied for her art. She kept on drawing and does BF art today the Antis who threatened her are all gone. Proves to show that anti culture is only relevant to popular current anime.
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@lizcourserants Have they apologised ✅. Did that happen almost 10 years ago ✅. Were there any incidents since then ❌. People can grow and change and we should respect that Twitter just outright refuses change exists, you need to die on the cross for the slur you said when you were 14 yo, FFS.
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@ANTICTRLX just imagine how it must be like for closeted gays in homophobic countries having to deal with this on a daily basic. you gotta be really privileged to forget homophobia exists.
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@fanpolstruggle OH GOD, THEY DID IT!! They just compared real-life police brutality to fanfiction with an age gap, they have reached the bottom of the barrel. "The cops might kill minorities and poc but age gap fan fiction is equally as bad" I AM GONNA BE SICKKKK 🤢🤢🤢.
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@katradora @feyyyymouse I have so much respect for what Noelle managed to do, she fought tooth and nail to get here. VLD is an example where the showrunners would rather give up than fight to have good rep. The fear of backlash was too strong and they took the easy way out.
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@bigrep_badidea @MATT_HAZARD_ @klkpeakfiction When has that ever stopped any high school hentai?????.
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@Lord_Griselda My mother stayed with my abusive father for most of her life, she didn't divorcing him since the system would not protect her, police couldn't do anything. She just endured and hope he wouldn't hurt us kids, everybody told her she should leave but nobody helped her to do it.
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