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@MbappeStyx
This stems from either serious hate for CR7 or serious lack of ball knowledge.
Either way its cringeworthy.
Mbappe is great, but at the moment he doesn't lace boots of CR7. Maybe in some years he will...
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@seseaso
"as soon as" while talking about Messi, while you couldn't use that term for RM without Ronaldo. You know why? Because it took them 4 years to reach another final after he left. 4 years after winning it thrice back to back.
Crazy how u create fake agendas to suit your narrative.
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@namesakeDO
@KING_GIV3N
@SaraFCBi
They asked him if he would join MLS. He explained the reason why he wouldn't. Why is that not common sense?
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@goated_footy
This is why comparing stats is a bad way to judge. Doesn't take into account that Serie A is way more competitive and defensive compared to Ligue 1.
CR7 in his 1st season was easily the best player in the whole league. Let alone league, LM wasn't even the best of his own team.
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@FCBxDAM
Ronaldo is the highest goal scorer for Juve in an entire decade.
Messi in his first season couldn't even make it to the T50 scorers in by far the easiest of the T5 leagues.
But ya, whatever helps you sleep 👍
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@Wxdge10
Doing it in a far worse league with an insanely OP team is no huge feat. To put that in context, Messi was outperformed by his own teammates every single season, while CR was atleast T3 itl every season.
Let's be real, Messi at PSG is nowhere close to CR at Juve.
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@FutDope
Your insecurity speaks volumes 😂😂😂
The debate existed and was pretty on-point for anyone who witnessed their prime, for reasons that are clearly beyond your understanding. So you can try as hard as you can knowing you'll end up failing...as always 🤫
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@Zs0703v2
If he does it "its for PR".
If he doesn't "its because he doesn't care".
It's so obvious that you're just desperate to hate him no matter what.
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@piqueunitedszn
Ronaldo is literally daylights clear of everyone else in the KOs of that same stage.
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@Radmanx23
What is so arrogant about this? There is not even the slightest of disrespect here to anyone or any team.
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@FutDope
Taking the first(undeniably the easiest of all pens) isn't an act of bravery either 😂
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@MbappeStyx
From Ronaldo and Mbappe to now Messi?
Lmao... shifting the goal post isn't gonna make your argument any less ridiculous.
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@ney2maa
Casual take as usual from someone who evidently didn't watch any Football before 2021. That's the average when most Messi fans started anyways.
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@AbjaFCB
He has been the top scorer, best player & title holder in all of those leagues. No one else in that list compares.
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@ney2maa
A BallonD'or winning Messi was fired by the club that made him what he is today. Not a single big club(except PSG) wanted him even for free... including Pep.
If this was CR, we would've seen a troll fest. Undoubtedly, Messi is the most protected player ever.
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@GOATED_CR7
He has done enough to make us proud. But Messi definitely has the edge now. Time isn't on Ronaldo's side.
This doesn't end our love for CR7, this should only increase our respect for Messi.
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@FutDope
The biggest individual honor Dybala ever won is the the Serie A MVP in 2019-20, playing with CR7.
Your agenda is clearly failing, isn't it?
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@boblittle125
@MartienBall
...while he had a better goal ratio than Messi when both played together in Spain.
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@_fenomeno9_
If this is "flopping" according to you then you clearly need to have better standards...
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@AbjaFCB
Funny how you namedropped Mbappe and Haaland as if they were some random players. Those two are the best of this generation...wake up 😂
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@goated_footy
There's "no debate at all" when half of these are anyways baseless 🤦♂️
12/13, 13/14, 16/17, 17/18, 21/22 are comfortably CR7. 19/20 also IMO.
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@Zs0703v2
Because none of them cares about their team the same way Ronaldo does. Haters will always call it PR, that's their cope.
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@avisualgame
Both are versatile players. In terms of ability they are very close, but Benzema's acheivements far surpass Rooney's.
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@Falarbor
That's how PR works.
Nobody cared about the Copa in 2016 & 2019, when the MVPs couldn't even earn a BallonD'or nomination. But someone's only claim to winning the D'or in 2021 was that same competition.
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@ney2maa
The minimum requirement for knowing why & how the rivalry existed is to be born before 2020.
You(and 80% of Messi's fanbase) sadly don't qualify 😭
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@Vicreus_11
@boblittle125
@MartienBall
Suarez has more assists than Iniesta. One has played a ST/CF his entire life, while the other has never. So what's your point?
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@scarletAudrey10
@GWR
@fifa
FIFA also recognizes Pele for scoring the most goals in a calendar year. Agree?
Ozil has never won a playmaker award. He wasn't a playmaker then?
I can show you professional players calling CR the greatest midfielder in PL.
Your sample size is 8 games?
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@Pulga_Disciple
Messi has been heavily hyped, rest everything is fair abt him.
For Pep it is insanely wrong. Lmao.
People hype him as if he pawed the way to revolutionary ways, when in reality he did nothing of that sort. And lets not talk about luck when he was inherited Messi-Xavi-Iniesta.
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@usetheeyetest
Ya just like if I had stronger legs, quicker reactions, healthier lungs & 1 beer belly less, I would have chatted to Pelé on the GOAT tier.
TRUTH is based on FACTs & not hypotheticals. And the FACT remains that Neymar chats to Ronaldo on absolutely nothing.
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@deep_defenders
@seseaso
Same backbone/blueprint existed in 2019, 2020, 2021 as well. What happened?
"They are the system itself" when you skipped 4 whole years to try and justify your argument. Lmfao.
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@Stav10M
Neymar and Ronaldo aren't even similar players. His style resembles that of Messi more.
In terms of acheivements, Ney doesn't even lace the boots of Ronaldo or Messi. Compare him to Griezmann instead.
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@boblittle125
@MartienBall
Overall Messi is nowhere close to CR as a goal scorer. He is a better finisher, that's about it.
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@pelesburner
@Khja_Barca
@rohan_k101
17/18 was arguably Ronaldo's worst season at Madrid. Sofa is seriously weird 😂
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@defence2attack
Player B by far.
Dribbles have ZERO value without proper context. Even if you 10x the number of dribbles, it wouldn't even come close to covering the massive gap is goals.
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@MadridPreeti
This is totally unnecessary. Its Messi's day, and let's give it to him. Yes, some decisions were controversial but Messi deserved it and he earned it.
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@alienmessi5
And all that based on a SportBible article, when the Portuguese federation themselves cleared out that there was no such appeal?
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@Vicreus_11
@boblittle125
@MartienBall
Someone who's played CF in the same league for most of his life having more Golden Boots isn't a surprise.
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@maxstephh
It wasn't greatness or humility, it's the fact that everyone knew CR was the better player. That's how teams are built, everyone plays around the talisman.
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@nivas783531101
@Muneeb_08
@AlanFarruz
Big games are played in big tournaments and not in Farmer's league 🤣🤣🤣
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@MbappeStyx
So you are telling me Portugal before CR7 had a better history than France before Mbappe?
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@MbappeStyx
I don't see how an empty trophy cabinet was a better history for Portugal compared to now.
CR7 was able to add to Real's history. Mbappe hasn't added anything significant to PSG's.
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@FabLM8
"Because a narcissist can no longer win it" 🤡
Let's not forget which fanbase started that narrative though.
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@_common_w2
1. Educate yourself on what a Winger means. Refer screenshot.
Heatmaps aren't available for that period.
2. Fairs.
3. Playing against a team and playing in a league are not even remotely the same thing.
4. What do you think was tougher? Getting from La Masia to Barca...
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@MbappeStyx
He will get better and might surpass CR7 someday. Right now he doesn't.
International career is the only part in ur argument that holds value. Close club careers is laughable...it isn't. CR7 is ridiculously clear!
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@Shammyyy___
@FCBxDAM
You're just l*me if you think the BallonD'or had anything to do with what he did with PSG.
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@pelesburner
That's the difference between a naturally gifted player and a well trained player.
People discredit CR's ability based on how robotic it looks, but fail to realize that he has easily surpassed a lot of naturally gifted ones.
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@ballenthusiast4
@FCBxDAM
No. But a Fwd who couldn't even make the T90 scorers of a season, in a lauguable league can never be close to being the better player.
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@ar_rekt
@freddyCR7LA
@FCBxDAM
"Himself admitted in court" but that same court already dismissed the case an year back.
Make it make sense.
Secondly, do you even know that r
@pe
cases cannot be taken off, even by the victim, once it reaches the court?
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@_common_w2
"Since" when CR outside Madrid had the best year for any Footballer in recent times 😭
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@FootbalGalaxy
"Messi was Barcelona"
When Messi's first ever CL medal with Barca came with him playing 0 mins post the RO16 😭
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@usetheeyetest
Ronaldo being called a "poacher" from 2015-2019 is the biggest lie I've ever heard from Messi fans.
Similarly, anyone who undermines Messi's 2022 WC is probably just salty.
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@macjayobyno
@SirMadridismo
@ZachLowy
Then why did you have a problem when someone gave the man who "took all the glory and hype" the credit for Madrid's UCL wins?
It's your choice whom to blame or give credit. But atleast don't have double standards.
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@avisualgame
Its only people who suffer from recency bias who would come to that conclusion so "comfortably". In their prime it was a much different story.
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@FCB_Xabhi
I don't think this was about the WC. He posted after something related to his tax fraud case.
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@RedMan85012
@lospettro2000
@RMadridEngineer
@dingdongpxxcked
Mbappe already has more G+A in WC KOs than Messi. So by your logic he has already surpassed Messi, right?
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@cylianos
@slimRaekwon
@Cerebrone
@Ismou005
He had neither or that at 2016 Euros. What worked in his favor was luck.
And let's not pretend Neymar didn't have favorable conditions, he almost always did.
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@scarletAudrey10
@GWR
@fifa
Then go ahead and prove even a single one of what I said false. I'll wait...
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@HansLxnda
"He's been a poacher for over half his career"
Didn't bother reading a single line after that blud. Instantly invalidates how casual the rest of the takes are gonna be.
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@messi_the_gift
@GOATED_CR7
Then wait till he watches the Final and conclude Mbappe is better than Messi...
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@fatbatman08
There's a difference between something being forced & something being an individual's choice.
Let common sense prevail.
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@jstnfutbol
But he is a unique combination of being elite at all of those things.
It's basically down to what you prefer, a Jack of all trades or a Master of one.
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@pelesburner
That's not true. Pelé emerged & became elite before Eusebio. It was Eusebio who had to try and catch up. Anyone who lived the CR7-Messi rivalry knows that it was CR7 who attained elite status before Messi.
Your theory would have been true if this was the other way round.
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@piqueunitedszn
That same Sir Alex signed Ronaldo to replace Beckham. So by your logic Beckham was a striker?
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@Footyknowit
Domestic treble is not bigger than UCL + Euros. It was inevitable.
2018 was a bit unfair to place him at 5th, but he was never gonna win it when there was someone who did well in both the UCL & WC.
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@BlancoYMessiii
What Football aspect is Messi clear other than playmaking?
Its funny how people try to overhype Messi. Yes he is brilliant, but saying Messi is miles clear simply shows how new you are to Football.
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@avisualgame
Better:
1. Salah - IMO greatest PL winger ever
2. Suarez - victim of the Messi-Ronaldo era
3. Modric - broke the Messi-CR7 duopoly
Worse:
1. Neymar - never lived up to expectations
2. Busquets - overrated
3. CR7 - sadly, recency bias is against him. Should have retired in 2021.
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