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@JoanDissed @DobboYork Would more elegant ones be better?

A classic

Surely this is just a data harvesting exercise? Lovely cynical stuff.

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Interestingly the only aggro I saw yesterday was after a van driver obnoxiously drove very fast and very close past us. Some words were briefly exchanged... I think it crazy how cars can rifle along a street filled with so many people like that and I think something should be done to so slow traffic and improve the public realm for locals and revellers. But yes, I imagine drunken fights happen a fair bit but perhaps the resident should be used to it having lived near the The Den for so many years... I jest. That's a problem but I think it is something that is likely mitigated by soo much security on the street.

@DobboYork I think you're correct on sound proofing, I bet the soundproofing for Kernal's bar is really great for example. But I doubt 99% of revellers are entering any nearby estates to break property or commit crime (apart from public urination, as we've discussed).

You may be right on that, but according to Google's AI, 'independent shops generally keep a significantly larger portion of money within a local economy compared to large chain stores, meaning that when you shop at an independent store, more of your purchase is recirculated back into the community through local employees, suppliers, and other local spending.'

A bit of a nuisance for existing residents (I don't care if they're social tenants, right to buy leaseholders in social stock, or leaseholders in the swanky new builds, they should all be listened to equally) should be weighed up alongside the wishes of these business and what their consumers/wider Londoners want. Unfortunately, these businesses don't get any representation... nor do consumers like me, so all the political pressure is focused on curtailing these businesses... when they can operate, how many customers they can serve etc etc. Just because lots of bars manage to exist despite all these restrictions, it doesn't mean they're not harming business. This might be survivorship-bias at play here, and without such strict licensing restrictions we'd see more bars and food outlets (and potentially, clubs/music venues too).

I think it is NIMBYism and I think local the councillors should be trying to think about how do we improve the sense of safety on the strip (there's actually so much private security on that street now, its probably one of the safest places to be) and prevent anti-social behaviour, without harming business. I'd be looking into improving lighting, improving public toilet infrastructure, working with the businesses to ensure they've signed up to the Ask for Angela scheme. That sort of thing.

@DobboYork Lobby for some of these bad boys. Also, I am sorry to hear about drunken aggressive louts but on the flip-side, all these revellers bring natural surveillance to the area after dark.

I did actually ask this bar owner if anyone on the beer mile tries to sweeten the deal with local residents - y'know, give locals on the estates nearby bar free beers/food or discounts, or if they ever get involved/sponsor local events and festivities to improve relations. He said no they don't, however he does have a relationship with a few of his resident neighbours. He said one older neighbour was recently widowed and he and his staff check on him and helped him and supported out with a few things. However, he says he has to also deal with residents nearby recording his bar and recording revellers, ready to inform the council if they ever break their license (too many people inside, they don't close on time etc).