Jiggly
@JigglyDStar1
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In a fair 1v1, both not nerfed, Kizaru wins high - extreme diff
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Luffy already beat him in a much worse state. FP Luffy is beating him up
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In Big ‘24 we all should have this take. jigglystar1 for contentions on it
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I’ll die on this hill, cord in bio or we can discuss here if you disagree
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@gear4better
Go on the street ask random people if they know Luffy or Naruto, tally up the votes and come back to me. I had known of Naruto YEARS before I even heard of Luffy
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@Averagenugget77
@kingkaido96
@mxtro_co
So are Kuzan and Garp not showing relative strength there? Because it seems like they are, and the post creator (a known clown) had no rebuttal
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A thread explaining the reasoning behind why Admiral Kizaru would beat Kaido
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@Averagenugget77
@kingkaido96
@mxtro_co
The scan he sent litteraly shows he had relative force to prime Garp 😭
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Mark my words, these two will have a large battle in the final war. Anyone saying it’s “Sabo” gotta get their head in the game (Luffy has MUCH more connection to Akainu via scars + Sabo is said to not be going after marines) He is a PK level threat.
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@KirigayaShimo
He’s right if he says taht btw. Reminder: mentally nerfed kizaru is stated to have been an equal to G5 soooo 😭
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The other debunk is “he can’t hurt Kaido” his lasers can hurt seraphim and he has ACoA, try again
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Yeah so anyone with contentions to this scale, can of course add me on discord and we can discuss/debate it. This is just my main reasoning why I think Kizaru would beat Kaido
Final scale: FP Kiz > EH Kiz ~ Luffy > Kaido
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@Supreme_rns
@MistaZod
Yeah, I hold the belief that Imu is above Joyboy as well. I think Imu realistically should be top 1 oat besides maybe Blackbeard EOS
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@kaido876
Assuming this is a joke account (for obvious reasons) yes, of course, it’s the same way Oda got rid of Kaido and BM 2/3 thru the story, bevause they are insignificant, and weak; and the actual power houses will perform soon such as the admirals, always reveal weakest first
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Random tierlist I made. Idk how much I agree with it but I’d debate it. disc in bio.
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The general scale will be Kizaru > Luffy > Kaido
I’m not going to go over Luffy being above Kaido, just no the reasoning is due Luffy defeating him while on deaths door and the Joyboy narritive, it’s more complex than this, but I’ll leave it at that for now
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I’m gonna take the admiral rival and the guy on par with Shanks every day over a Kidd victim
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This has to be a troll… “the strongest isn’t being the strongest” 🔥 holy shit people be saying anything now huh lmao 😭
World strongest swordsman is not the same as being the strongest. Zoro goal isn’t to be unbeatable, his goal is to be the best swordman. Yall make his dream more than it is and when yall see his dream doesn’t mean he is the strongest yall will complain.
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Now of course we know Kizaru is mentally nerfed, I’ll even show some scans proving his performance his affected by this nerf. We can see his typical precision in marineford where he can hit very precise targets from far away, yet much closer and larger targets are a problem on EH
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To start, I’ll go over white star gun (WSG) and what it means for Kizaru and it’s effectiveness. People love to say “kizaru got one shot” this is a very ignorant way of thinking and ignores ALOT of context. Luffy verbatim states it pushes him to his limit as an all out attack
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So since he’s nerfed but still an equal to Luffy, he should realistically be above Luffy. Two main attempted debunk are “he’s not using ACoC” there isn’t a single instance where I think ACoC would assist Luffy and if there is, I’d like to see it be pointed out.
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Made a tierlist template for pre ts exclusively, thought I might as well post it here
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@JasonKieffer1
I’m just saying one tanked the Marco kick with zero problem, the other was bleeding…
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You cannot “be more than even” you can be “more than OR even” since it’s the former and not the latter, this is evidently figurative language (which data books use ALOT) so it’s most likely saying Kizaru ~ Luffy on egghead.
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Disagree = gotta reread the fight. If deathbed Kidd is blitzing her, what do you think FP Kidd is doing?
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@kingkaido96
Yonko fans when they have to murder their best friend 😭 y’all can’t be human beings
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So we’ve established that in round 2 Kizaru wasn’t injured, but in R1 he should’ve been at his best (under the circumstances of the mental nerf I’ll get into)
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Kizaru then states “I’m seeing stars” this seems to be a result of concussion, and would explain why Kizaru does poorly in the 2nd round of the fight.
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@Averagenugget77
@NivekDorso
@kingkaido96
@mxtro_co
Yap, Mihawk is above anyone with a sword 😭 tf you think “strongest swordsman” means lmao. It’s even contexualized in the vivre cards to be because he couldn’t find anyone else as strong as him with shanks being RIGHT there
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@CEOofZoroAgenda
@MoonGod_Zika
7/8 sandman is a weirdo freak who stalks Oda 💀 both are ass tho icl
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@wildfireluffy
Kishimoto does much better lmao, at least dudes die on Naruto, the tension is always there. In OP, when someone dies, you gotta take a few minutes to even question if they’re actually dead
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Anyway, this statement is made
Before 00: 黄猿と再戦し互角以上に渡り合う
Before 00: Re-matches Kizaru and is more than evenly matched
People try and argue and say this means Luffy >= Kizaru? I’ll quickly go over the grammar and why this isn’t coherent English.
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@l1ec17
You’d genuinely be hard pressed to prove Big Mom AND her whole crew gets past Base Luffy.
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@unonumero_56
Yes great 3 hits knocked him out. And Lucci doesn’t “fall over” so clearly it wasn’t a one shot. Lucci can barely stand let alone fight 😭 what a stupid arguement, only Luffy pfps would say smth this stupid lmao
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@unonumero_56
That’s why Zoro can blitz and one shot Lucci who can take three G5 attacks and keep up with G5, ok 😭 base Luffy beats him tho lmao
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@unonumero_56
Yes this doesn’t prove anything 😭 Luffy can BARELY knock him out with 3 attacks (some of which are environmental and accelerated) Zoro can almost fucking kill him in 1, him standing isnt an anti feat you fucking gorilla, use your brain
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@Scoop_991
Luffy is such a shit protagonist, that even tho I haven’t read kingdom, I 100% believe they’re right
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@DKSJ_0
@RealAlmighty7
That’s called an argument from incredulity, it’s a logical fallacy. You’re saying “Wow, I can’t imagine and I can’t think of Kuzan beating Flaming Dragon, so he can’t!” It’s not an argument.
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@JasonKieffer1
@GlideGrass
Because people are stuck in Wano and don’t read statements directly calling nerfed Kizaru Luffy’s equal
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@wildfireluffy
Yeah this doesn’t take into account size lmao. The TT Cataclysm is calced at multi cont lmao, that random attack is at best like a large building - small town level feat
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@AJ___tax
A LARGE MOVING TARGET VERY CLOSE TO YOU, vs a VERY SMALL TARGET VERY FAR. And he does the same with buggy and BARELY misses so my point stands
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@RollinRoronoa
@XaverDB
Ignorant ass thing to say. Kuzan has actually shown advanced CoO and CoA so he excels there. Kuzan should be as fast if not faster than kizaru who’s faster than G5. Endurance Kuzan fought for 10 whole days. Not really a feat, CP0 is just skilled is all
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@hypnosthana
Dear dumbass mfer,
Zoro on a quest to become a better swordsman, went to train his haki
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@KirigayaShimo
@waynesp9
You’re misinterpreting the Gan Fall statement very poorly you moron AND you’re wrong. Gan Fall is referencing when you make a CHOICE against ur will like Kizaru, not because you feel bad for smth. And on top of that, VP doesn’t die until after Kizaru is defeated 😭 apes man
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@808sAndHrtbreak
Actual glaze only maybe enies lobby and marineford are 9s, everything else is a 8 or below,
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@808sAndHrtbreak
@theonetrueedge1
Definitly not, I don’t think you can really scale base Luffy to 10 quintillion x FTL and to a 10 quint uni threat but yeah 😭 Naruto slams
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@KirigayaShimo
He got up the next chapter 😭 and yeah it does say that Luffy is “more than evenly matched”
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@NoNakama_amatsu
@AJ___tax
You can use more of ur arsenal and still be more nerfed lmao.
Luffy hasn’t even usedACoA or FS since he unlocked ACoC, and you’d be pressed to prove he has to me. So under the basis of my scaling for Luffy vs Kizaru comparatively to Kaido, it doesn’t rlly affect anything
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@AJ___tax
Luffy wasn’t nerfed lmao 😭 and no here is a ONE TO ONE COMPARISON, showing kizarus performance being poorer
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@Papa_zuki
@AdmiralSH7
That’s definitely implied as in the new chapter the giants say his haki wasn’t hostile
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