As president Ronald Thump prepares to leave office, the sinister Antione Faustey - known as 'The Science' - plans an attack on the human race. Only one man, empowered by Galacticus crystals, can save humanity, our adventure begins in 2020...

1) Jesus is the resurrection: (John 11:25 - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live) Now this is interesting in the light of the passage in question as he goes on to raise Lazarus from the dead. There were likewise other resurrections on the personal level in both the OT & NT, yet Christ alone is counted the first fruits of the resurrection as you point out. Therefore, this cannot be taken as a doctrine of multiple resurrections. Further, it is probable that Jesus was not in His 'resurrection body' when He rose, rather than a resurrected (raised, like Lazarus) body. Here's what I mean: John the Apostle both knew Christ in the flesh and saw Him after the resurrection. Yet John states that at Christ's return, he does not know what the resurrection body will be like, rather he states: 1 John 3:2 ...it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. John's assumption, therefore, is that at Christ's return He will appear differently than when He ascended (which John was also present for). The calling up of the two witnesses is - like the raising and ascension of Christ, & like Lazarus, Jairus' daughter or even Elijah - not demonstrative of a new body as your text of 1 Cor speaks of: 1 Cor 15:42-44 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (Sry, I do have to run to work, howbeit I begin to respond; I will continue later)

@SpringSteps I've got to head to work, but will respond later.

@SpringSteps @GregCha67942091 @HamExtraBacon Is this an insult? I specifically said that you are having a thoughtful discourse with me unlike others who support your position.

Did you ever realize that Jesus can be found in the book of Job?

Even tastier than the original.

@elonmusk

Lol. Although I have to be frank - while I appreciate the work that is being done by DOGE (long overdue) & the libs are making a stink about Musk gaining access to private information here they have a point in the long run. I am all for the gov't shrinking, not for I'm not for tech Oligarchs & corporations taking its place. They should do like batman in The Dark Knight & ensure once the Joker is taken out that the technology is destroyed rather than consolidating the public forum to instigate brain chips & AI bioweapons (Stargate AI).

@BlackBe51754764 This is what happens when believers turn from the doctrine of repentance & tell ppl all they need to do is believe in Jesus to be saved. James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

My mom was a school librarian for several years; I recall at one point helping her rearrange books & was really grossed out at all the lib propaganda. 'Public' schools should be called 'government' schools. Filled with propaganda, they revise history & steer the narrative of society.

@TheNatureN48108 YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! But sure, ok. 😉

@GregCha67942091 @SpringSteps @HamExtraBacon That's the way they all seem to respond. Bob & weave. At least she now seems to be attempting to have a thoughtful discourse with me.🤷 The more annoying thing is the part where - as you say - they then claim you are debunked without actually debunking anything.

There is no secret rapture before the second coming; (or do find me a plain statement scripture which expressly says so, not a number of passages arraigned in such a way as to show something else as in your red chart). The problem here is that you are denying plain statement scriptures for a preferred belief system and then going back through and interpreting more ambiguous as though they affirm that theology. I would be happy to go through each one of your proof texts one by one, but as it is you and other rapture proponents shoot them into the conversation like birdshot and expect your interpretation of those passages to be accepted. Just for example your denying that the return of Christ constitutes the first resurrection when the text expressly states it does (Rev 20:5 'But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.') - thus you deny the scripture - because you have determined to call other preceding events 'resurrections.' Which of you is correct? The bible is. That there is any question should be enough to make you wonder at what you have been taught. Likewise with the two passages of Thessalonians, neither of which are ambiguous yet by your chosen interpretations, both of which are rejected in favor of a pre-determined belief; likewise with what Christ said. (Again, please do show me a clear plain statement scripture stating there is a pre-resurrection rapture of the living - one does not exist (likely you will as many, if you accept the challenge, throw out a number of ambiguous passages with your assumed interpretation, but I speak of texts as plainly stated as: 'The living do not prevent the dead,' 'the dead rise first,' 'that day shall not come except there come a falling away first...' etc.)) That said, your interpretations of prophecy as they are based on the rejection of plain statement scriptures are also mistaken (which is why I don't even bother attempting to argue prophecies with dispensationalists - your assumptions are all based on a system of theology that started with rejection of plain statement scriptures in favor of a preferable doctrine. But dispensationalism is based on neo-political Zionism to begin with in order that the Jews might replace the Church. This was the supposition for the doctrine; the prophecies of the Old Testament are fulfilled in Christ, and the prophecies of the New Testament are fulfilled in Christ and the Church, His bride. Yet, I perceive it unlikely I can persuade you out of the cunningly devised fables you have received, and it seems a bit 'internet argument' arbitrary to warn you that I believe dispensationalism is, itself, part and parcel to the last days deception Paul warned about. 🤷 Thanks for the conversation.

@LetsGoBrando45 That's about as likely as getting stuck with a senile president.

Thanks for a thoughtful reply. The second coming of Christ and the resurrection of the dead are synonymous. This is consistent throughout the NT and Paul specifically clarifies this in the 2nd letter to the Thessalonians whereby we also can see that Paul was speaking of more than simply comforting them concerning the resurrection, he was also teaching them doctrine. There he straitly charges the Thessalonians not to be deceived by any who would declare that Christ's return AND our gathering together to Him (synonomous) was imminent. Paul states that two things must happen first, namely the great apostacy, and the revealing of the antichrist. Why? Because the antichrist is destroyed at Christ's second coming. 2 Thess 2:1-5 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand [imminent return]. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a [1] falling away first, and [2] that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [Paul even specifies here that he had been clarifying these facts of the resurrection to them.] Jesus also clarified this that His second coming, and our gathering together are after the tribulation: Matt 24:29-31 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Likewise the narrative of His return in the Revelation (19 & 20) Which is my point, all these passages which speak of Christ's second coming and the resurrection speak of the same thing. Dispensationalists arbitrarily add events. Speaking of your final question (which I maintain is immaterial in the light of plain statement text); it is the beast, the serpent and the false prophet who are cast into the lake of fire (as also predicted by Paul). Not all people of the nations are destroyed. And addressing your many resurrections: the Revelation states that the resurrection at Christ's return is the first resurrection (Rev. 20:5 & 6), so your designation of first second third resurrections are contrary to what is written. Matt 25 speaks of the final judgment, which is also laid out in Rev 21:11-15 when the rest of the dead are judged after the first resurrection. (We could also mention Enoch & Elijah, but perhaps are excluded in our count because they were before Christ?) I don't believe that Isaiah 65 is about the millennium; that is part of dispensationalism's reinterpretation of OT prophecies. That passage is about the era of Christ; the church age. I think I have addressed you in full here.

Spank your kids.

@Ev_deGallery Did you have some sort of damage to repair, or is it just a remodel?

@michaeljknowles Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Wonder why he didn't use this passage about taking the middle ground? 🤔

Prov 29:25 The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe. The fear of man is when we honor people more than we honor the word of God.

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@JesusIsWarning Dispensationalism is part of the deception. 👇 👇