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I tried my best. I'm really nervous about this......
A few days ago I made a Strawpage. I wanted to use it to post content while I take care of my personal business. And to open a request for doodles to celebrate the 350+ followers. But first I would like to make sure that y'all agree with the idea.
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—🧵🐇; A little thread of my thoughs about fatherhood, motherhood and how is portrayed in Bsd.
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—🧵🐇; A small thread with my thoughts about this scene from chapter 36 of the manga.
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The way Canonzai remembers and talks so fondly about little Gin, I'M SICK.
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I'll never get over the fact that Beastzai canonically called Gin "Dear." like, THAT'S HIS DAUGHTER.
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—🧵🐇; A little thread of my thoughs about fatherhood, motherhood and how is portrayed in Bsd.
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This is most evident when in the Dark Era Stage, Mori cries when Dazai leaves his office, because he knows that Dazai preferred Oda (his freedom) over him (his father).
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THIS TOOK WAY MORE THAN A SEC OK.
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Mori and Dazai have a father-son dynamic, this confirmed by Beast Mori's words near the end of the novel/manga. Mori sees Dazai as his son, almost as if heir his you can say.
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Dazai is often described as a sadistic person(which is a common mischaracterization), but clearly he considers that to be a good person, murder should not be on his record, which makes it clear that he feels guilt for having murdered regardless of who he has killed in the past.
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This is something common in Dazai, it also happens in Stormbringer, it is one of his ways of showing that he cares. Dazai always lets people choose their path, he even makes everything easy for them as long as they get their right to choose.
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In Dazai's case, he has killed countless people (right now I don't remember the exact number), Although he does not explicitly say it or show it, it is clear that he feels guilty for his past actions.
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To begin with, Kyouka killed 35 people under the manipulation of the Port Mafia, She did not enjoy killing, however, even though she did not enjoy it, she feels guilty, even though her ability was imposed and not chosen.
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Dazai in this conversation is not only speaking for himself, but also for Oda (I'll get to that later.). Dazai is talking about people who kill to survive, even offering Kyouka to clear an entire path so she can live doing whatever she wants, whether it's killing or not.
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Something I say a lot about this scene is that it is very related to "guilt.", Not to mention that it is basically the basis of the entire scene/conversation.
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Later, what Dazai tells us is that when someone's father dies, that someone usually mourns his death. If Headmaster is Atsushi's "mentor"(father/father figure), considering the parallels often made between Akutagawa and Atsushi, Dazai is Akutagawa's mentor(father/father figure.)
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A HINT OF KINDNESS, HE TALKS TO ATSUSHI WITH KINDNESS I'M KILLING MYSELF. HE'S REALLY HIS SON.
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It is clear from this that mentoring is a parallel to fatherhood throughout the manga. In turn, fatherhood is typically associated with trauma, specifically abuse through the male parenting mentality.
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Now, since it is clear that both Kyouka and Dazai are blinded and drowned by their faults, let's move on to the next thing. "You killed 35 people, so what?" That was what Dazai told Kyoka.
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Odasaku did not feel he had the right to write his novel because he was "a bad person" due to his history of murders, Dazai did not feel entitled to his humanity because he acted in an inhuman way (because of that he was associated more with a demon than a human.),
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Akutagawa later in this same chapter tells us that the Headmaster still is Atsushi's "mentor", but that his "mentor" (Akutagawa's) is Dazai.
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A "bad person" like Hirotsu was the one who took care of him and was by his side during his years in the Port Mafia. So why can't people like him and Kyouka, victims of circumstances, be good people? Does murder under those circumstances condemn you to being a bad person?
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but as a way to compensate for his failure by saving the pupil (son) of whom he once considered his son.
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Kyouka feels that she has no right to live in the light because she is "guilty" of murdering those 35 people. But Dazai knows better, a "bad person" like Odasaku could have been his friend and been one of the few people who treated him well, who gave him a safe space.
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Dazai mentions that: "former murderers have no right to be good people." It's something that Odasaku believed, and that Kyouka and Dazai were forced to believe.
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First of all, I want to clarify that this is the first part of the analysis, my sister recommended that I separate it into parts, since this is very long. If this part gets support, I should be posting the other two parts soon.
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Almost like Oda, Dazai changed his mind when he had a motivation, Dazai is wanting to give that motivation to Kyouka, why? It's simple, Dazai knows that Kyouka is consumed by her guilt, a guilt that follows her wherever she goes.
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Mori wants his "son" to come back to him, and to follow the plan he made for him. It's practically a desperate call for Dazai to "rethink" the decision he made that day, because Mori can't accept that Dazai chose Oda.
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Again, it's not explicit, but it's clear what we're being told, B!Mori lost a "son" by letting B!Dazai walk a path that led to his death, this time, Mori takes B!Atsushi as his son not as a replacement for B!Dazai,
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Human beings are like stray dogs looking for a way to survive, we cannot stop time and make other decisions. We did what we did, all we have left is to live and face the consequences of our actions.
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So, if so, why couldn't someone like Odasaku, who had a new beginning, who atoned for his guilt and looked ahead to his reason for living, be saved? Why then could Dazai have a new beginning unlike Odasaku? Why is Dazai alive and Odasaku not?
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I don't have the specific panels, but basically, B!Mori says that Atsushi reminds him of someone he couldn't save (Referring to Dazai, with a panel that proves it.) and that from now on he will take Atsushi as his son.
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(It is a right that he knows he does not have, but that is typical of human beings.) Obviously Dazai knows what Kyouka's response will be, he knows that she doesn't enjoy killing, just like him, she does it because it was her only option at the time.
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Kyouka killed 35 people, Dazai killed about 100, but, so what? Those people are dead now, there is nothing they can do, the only thing they can do now is get a new start and atone for their guilt.
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Dazai is asking Kyouka not to forget what she did but it is no longer important, what is important is for her to take control of her own life for herself. Dazai doesn't want Kyoka to sink into guilt like he has been doing for years.
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"Those are your feelings, it's okay to do whatever you feel. I can only say one thing in general, when someone's father dies, they will cry."
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Like Dazai said "No one can put a name or value on someone else's feelings, that would be presumptuous.", Dazai doesn't know the answer, he can't understand it at least, no matter how much guilt he feels, it's something he can't fix now.
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Dazai, doesn't asks Kyouka to stop blaming herself, but rather asks her to atone for her guilt, to face the consequences of her actions. Because even though she's not to blame for her circumstances, she still feels guilty, and that's something Dazai can't change.
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Starting with Mori and Dazai, since this case is also the root of the Akutagawa and Dazai case. Mori and Dazai's relationship is a bit difficult to explain because of how extensive it is, but I will do my best to summarize it.
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Now, speaking of the canon universe, the relationship between Dazai and Mori is much more stormy. The father-son relationship they have in this universe arises in the same way as in Beast, Mori saw himself reflected in Dazai, saw his potential, and identified with him.
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Live for those who are no longer here, carry them on your back and make their death worth something.
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The first thing I have to mention, to introduce the topic, is that many people still believe that many dynamics are only "implied" rather than basically confirmed. In this case, I am talking about mentoring, drawing parallels with parenting.
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Try to correct their mistakes, take advantage of the new opportunity that they have and that other people did not have. Dazai wants to give Kyouka that new opportunity, just as Odasaku gave him the opportunity.
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But it is too late, since he is already his mentor, so Dazai ends up being an absent father figure in every sense, and to top it all off, negligent.
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It was Mori who planned for Dazai to meet Chuuya, and then he also took charge of controlling Chuuya to ensure that Dazai did not have influences that would take him off the path he planned for him.
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"My mentor is Dazai-San, but he is not yours. Your mentor is the man in the photo. Today is the anniversary of your mentor's death, so I'll leave you off."
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There are also Ranpo and Fukuzawa, who while there is no abuse in their dynamic, the trope of a father who does not want to be one is once again presented. Fukuzawa learned to love Ranpo, but it is something that cost him for a good portion of the novel.
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Which makes it much less curious than in the guild arc, when Dazai asks Mori if he kicked him out of the Port Mafia because he was afraid that he would kill him, Mori only answers with a smile.
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For this I am going to quote the chapter: "Portrait of a father" (ep.39 of the manga.) From the title a "father" is mentioned to us, but the curious thing is that this chapter is about Atsushi and the Headmaster (Director of the orphanage.)
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Then, from this, another type is born. Dazai and Akutagawa. While Mori recognizes that he is a father to Dazai, Dazai refuses to be a father to Akutagawa.
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Certainly, Mori didn't originally plan everything with Oda, but he knew that Ango was a spy, he knew that Mimic was lurking, he knew where Oda's orphans lived and he needed the special permission.
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So, Dazai was like a dog chasing a bone that he can never reach. This was what Dazai did with Akutagawa later on, but with a slight change.
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However, in this universe, Mori takes a much more selfish route, keeping Dazai away from anything he can't control. In itself, the beginning of their dynamic (Mori making him witness a murder.) It is presented to us as a situation that Mori took advantage of.
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This is where things escalate, because Dazai refuses to give Akutagawa approval as a response to the trauma he already has, Therefore, trying to impose distance, Dazai ends up being more aggressive, turning to physical abuse.
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If Dazai went to look for Oda, Dazai was choosing his freedom, if Dazai stayed with Mori, Dazai embraced the plan he had prepared for him, that of becoming the demon prodigy.
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Guilt is a feeling that could overwhelm anyone, but if you have an opportunity to make up for your actions and vindicate yourself, you must take it and make your circumstances your own, make ones that you can control.
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By the way, I also draw.
I made this for my sister a few days ago, it was a surprise but she spoiled it on ig.
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@ratscanttt
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It was Mori who planned for Dazai to leak the Port Mafia information to her (and therefore, the death of the flags is also his fault. He planned everything to kill several birds with one stone, a fairly common behavior for him.
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So it all starts from the moment Dazai was vulnerable, and that's how Mori always keeps it. During the novels, Mori always planned everything so that Dazai followed the steps he wanted him to follow, without breaking the mold.
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Dazai wasn't the least bit ready to be a "father", and ended up abandoning his "son", like a puppy in the rain.
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Throughout the manga, we are shown several cases of paternity, but I am going to focus on a few so as not to go off on the topic.
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It's so sad that the last words Bram heard from Aya were: "If you're gonna disappear, then go! Get Lost!" Because those are just the feelings suppressed by his father's negligence speaking. She just wanted to have a more pleasant and joyful life with Bram.
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However, during Stormbringer and Fifteen, we get glimpses of Dazai's perspective. Mori manipulated and hooked Dazai into believing that he would help him die, perhaps Dazai knew it was a lie, we don't know that.
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Which leaves us thinking about the fact that in Beast, B! Dazai chose Oda over Mori again.
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Mori tells Dazai that he did what he did because it was necessary and convenient, it was the easiest thing for the organization. But Dazai knows better, Mori put everything in order to prove his loyalty.
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In short, abuse is present everywhere in the dynamic, but it is one-way, it is Dazai who receives the abuse, which is similar to how many parents want to raise their children, controlling them and planning everything for them. This is one of the types of parenthood.
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The point is that with that alone he was in charge of getting rid of Verlaine, controlling Chuuya, punishing the flags for disobeying him and much more.)
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Dazai constantly moved and followed Mori (on the stage) and subtly sought his approval. However, Mori took this as an opportunity to "train" and "discipline" him, so instead of giving him recognition, he continued to throw him tests and more tests to overcome.
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This is when everything makes more sense with the main idea, because Dazai, just like Mori with him, sees himself reflected in Akutagawa.
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This also puts another perspective on why Mori is so insistent on bringing Dazai back to the Port Mafia.
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He had the pieces, when the time came he put them together to his liking as a test of loyalty to Dazai. This is confirmed in the conversation Dazai and Mori have before Dazai goes to find Oda.
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This arouses in Akutagawa the same rage that Dazai feels for Mori. Which is curious, because both Dazai and Akutagawa have shown a willingness to kill their "fathers."
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In the same way that Dazai sought approval from Mori, Akutagawa sought it from Dazai.
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Fatherhood, until now, has been shown as something toxic full of abuse, they are all different abuses, but at the end of the day, abuse.
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Do u guys think that when Beastzai obtained the memories of Canonzai he also got the location of Odasaku's grave one and that led him to go to the cementery, dig up the grave that he thought was Odasaku's, and he just found another's persons body, like,he just completely lost it.
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