You can love a character and still admit when they're wrong. I love Furina but can acknowledge her flaws (she has none) and can hold her accountable for her wrongdoings (she has never done anything wrong in her life) and call her out for her actions (which are always correct)
It's so obvious to me that a lot of you don't understand how furina's design reflects on her characterization. How do you ignore one of the main themes in her story? She has Pneuma & Ousia forms bc she embraces both sides of herself.
I love how furina is shown in the spotlight while neuvillette is in the shadows but always looking back at her. Even in his pov she has a spotlight putting emphasis on her.
Arlecchino is a character who rejects feminine qualities and they show that with her. Furina's character is about fluidity she embraces both sides of her, she is intentionally designed to be feminine & masculine. Her androgyny ties to her characterization.
You can tell when someone doesn't know Neuvillette or Furina at all when they claim her story was a coming of age story and paint Neuvi as the wise older man.
I feel like furina is constantly called a "girlfailure" because people don't see her as a strong person. They don't see a woman expressing her emotions as something positive but something weak. It's so true that even some of the people like her don't take her seriously.
I really wish this fandom would learn how to block what they dislike. Furina's lifespan being expanded by neuvi is just a fun/angsty concept that nvfr shippers and other ships with neuvi explore.
La Vaguelette is undeniably a song about love, romantic love & platonic love. Clio & her lover, Clio/furina's love for humanity & the fact they included a Neuvillette pov that proves that regardless of what kind of love you interpret it as he does have love in his heart for her.
How are ppl in denial abt furina being an archon despite her being in the official art. It's the same people who deny her divinity was apart of her at some point. her Pneuma & Ousia forms are included in her design for a reason. She embraces both sides bc they're apart of her.
It surprises me that people say Neuvillette didn't know furina at all but he was shown as the first character who saw through her. Without him the traveler wouldn't have had any hints in the beginning she wasn't actually the way she presented herself.
Neuvifuri crumbs...its so cute they play tcg together despite neuvillette being very busy he spends time with furi anyway. impartiality goes out the window when it comes to her I see.
I should have included it in my thread but furina doesn't avoid neuvillette bc she doesn't want to be near him. But bc she feels guilty and insecure around the people she's previously worked with including clorinde. Neuvillette wants to give her space bc he cares. 1/3
I like arlefuri but they have always been considered toxic yuri? Furina thought she was going to killed in the night by her and cried all night without sleeping bc she was so afraid. She wants to forget a figure like that bc she frightened her in her vl. 1/2
@GooseberiGalaxi
The misogynistic boymom neuvi fans are my worst nightmare when it comes to anything involving furina. I need to hide both of my white haired princesses from these people😕
Saying you will send feedback then continue to spend money is actually not helping at all. There will be not be any properly melanated characters if all you're doing is giving them more money.
@C0REZI
To put yae miko of all women, the woman who wrote lesbian fan fiction about her girlfriend, flirts with women in other nations and actively scares men on a regular basis.
Zero hate to rest of the Fontaine characters especially the girls bc I love them but it is disappointing seeing a 15 min video about Fontaine culture and furina was absolutely nowhere to be seen💔
@C0REZI
He would never change any of the laws furina made no matter how silly they were. He probably makes people obey them despite furina not even working with him anymore😭
Instead of taking furina's story as an example of her being a "girlfailure" take it as an example of a strong character who endured so much for the sake of others, even when all odds were against her & she felt hopeless. She deserves to be treated with respect.
I don't know how anyone can purposely misunderstand furina's story as a coming of age story. neuvillette was never her parental guardian & she wasn't a dependent child
Hey you guys, just a FYI there's a fic on the neuvifuri I reported on AO3, that wishes harm n r**e on the shippers. Please don't click on that if you're sensitive to that kind of harassment. They will be dealt with accordingly. 🫶 Hopefully any associated account will be banned
1. Furina's Personality:
When we are first introduced to Furina she is presented as arrogant & according to paimon "over the top" but eventually we see that's not the case.
In conclusion furina is a beautiful, loving, brave, selfless, complex woman with flaws & a wonderful character who's authority & importance is purposefully reduced by the fandom. I love the Regina of All Waters, Kindreds, Peoples and Laws.
If you are separating her Pneuma form to reject her femininity & focalors (when it's just her with long hair) you do not understand her character! You guys missed the half the point of her story. Her androgyny, her accepting her time as archon & her now as apart of her.
Arlecchino sending her cakes is a polite but she didn't repair anything, furina is still afraid of her that has not changed in the story. I don't know what's up with the sudden detoxification of arlefuri but we already have soft yuri with arle & clervie & clorinde & furina😭
Furina has always worked hard and prepares for trials in advance. For years she has tried her best to gather information to stop the prophecy, she has not once taken it lightly. She's a smart hardworking woman takes her responsibilities seriously.
Later in the quests thanks to Neuvillette we see a different perspective on furina that hints towards her not truly being how she presents herself to everyone.
This fandom is so desperate to be misogynistic towards furina and uplift a male character instead that they will mischaracterize him while claiming to love him.
Her rampant infantilization is very out of character when she's been the one to overcome her own problems, she has never relied on others to take care of her responsibilities. She is fun & cute but she is still mature & takes on responsibility when necessary.
We start seeing cracks in her facade, her inner thoughts being less confident & more worried than she shows. Bc she is an actor constantly in the spotlight she knows all eyes are on her so she must present herself perfectly.
This affection is not one-sided either! Furina has been encouraging him for years to experience humanity the way she does, the fact that she never stopped even after she left proves that she genuinely does care despite her act being dropped.
A display of furina's selflessness is the fact she suffered in silence for 500 yrs, she denied herself the desire to confide in anyone even her trusted coworkers. Bc she vowed to protect her people until the very end and she did.
Especially when Furina is seen as a role model, an inspiration to other characters & citizens, her words & actions have constantly been used to bring others hope. She is an invaluable person in many characters lives.
Furina's bravery shows with how despite wanting to give up, slowly losing faith in herself she refuses & continues for the sake of her people. She is brave, determined & her loving nature makes her stronger.
Invalidating her relationships with any characters affirms her insecurity. clorinde and neuvillette both want her to realize despite her not confiding in them abt the prophecy and her identity their bonds and affection for her were true.
She is purposefully designed this way for a reason I'm so tired of you guys rejecting a part of her & using outdated logic to say she's only supposed to be portrayed masc.
These scenes are talked about the most regarding her relationships, Furina says this purely out of insecurity that stems from her endless masquerade and feelings that everyone resents her.
@C0REZI
Why would you put that thought on my head😭him keeping all those laws AND keeping furina's birthday a holiday is doing damage to my heart. Probably watches people perform the same roles she did while thinking abt her. Sad husband activities
Furina being the first human to earn a vision from the hydro sovereign. Hoyoverse collaborating with a creator to make a Neuvillette pov of La Vaguelette.
Her official art is her included with the rest of the archons bc she is focalors, her divinity & her human half is what made them both parts of focalors. She is shown in her Pneuma form with her special vision, happily expressing herself embracing both sides.
Furina is an observant person especially when it comes to others emotions. Her intelligence especially emotional shows in her SQ & her teapot vls. She's knowledgeable on many things. She is a smart older woman who has lived many years & seen more than most.
2. Furina's SQ, feelings & intelligence:
Furina is a good leader which is why she parallels Aurelie & Clio in her SQ. She becomes the director holding everyone together & bringing the troupe hope, something about her that never changed after the AQ.
I don't understand why it's only us that get hate for harmless concepts/au's? Furina's pain didn't stem from being immortal it's from being isolated from others emotionally for years.
Rewatching the aq makes me realize how disappointing it is seeing the fandom treat a woman (furina) who expresses her emotions as childish. God forbid she has feelings😭
Taking her words at face value is harmful & diminishes her desire for relationships. She had lied to people, played an act for years. She worries people will resent her bc of it despite her 2 closest coworkers reassuring her.
Furina's inhuman nature still shows, she always had a desire to understand humanity more bc she has always wanted to be human & bc she has never lived the same way humans do. She was never born one, never grew up as one. Similar to Neuvillette she is still learning.
Did we pay attention to the same stories? The man who came to a city to understand himself better? The man who isn't very experienced with others? The man who needed a push to discover himself by understanding humans?
Furina here shows similarities to Aurelie, who was like an older sister to the troupe. She is understanding & compassionate but she doesn't hesitate to put things into perspective for them.
She never said she hated her long lifespan she just hated the loneliness she experienced. There are positive aspects she experienced and she still cherishes those memories of her past.
When she says this she says it like she's questioning it herself, is it really for the best? She does still care for him and that shows with how she asks us to help him. She needed space from everyone after the aq.
A constant theme in her story is her two halves, focafuri, her two forms & her personality. Her contradictory elements reflect on her fluidity, her eyes, her hair, her vision, everything.
Focalor/furina's words still mean a lot to him. She is the reason he came to fontaine, the reason he began to love humanity as much as she did. Bc of her efforts he was able to have the same feelings she has to the people of fontaine.
When furina is asking neuvillette to come with her to the meeting english has him seem annoyed at end while in cn it was more of a confused sigh. He isn't upset with her 'begging' but more confused/concerned at her reasoning for it.
This line shows he's seen the cracks in her facade multiple times throughout the years, yet he never once treated her inferior or worse bc of how over the top she acted. He couldn't see through her archon act bc he never suspected or doubted that she wasn't one.
Furina receiving a vision at the end of her SQ is a reward for all she's done, her bravery, her continuous kindness even after stepping down, preventing the people from being dissolved bc she returned the authority of the hydro dragon. Furina truly does have a pure heart.
Furina even after everything is over is still left with so much guilt. From deceiving those closest to her & deceiving her citizens. She feels she wasn't strong enough as she had acted. she grieves for those lost in Poisson, which also contributes to her guilt & insecurities.
Furina uses that intelligence to help others, she is a kind & caring person who is able to read others easily because she herself has spent years hiding her true feelings to protect others.
Furina the woman who is far more experienced with other people but is still trying to experience it fully with her newfound freedom? The woman who's an inspiration/role model to many?
Furina's shows what years of self isolation & fear looks like & possibly depression. This does not make her weak or childish for expressing her emotions towards it. Post AQ she still harbors a fear of allowing herself to be close to others & that ties to her fear of being alone.
There is no issue with people drawing her in feminine clothes or masculine clothes. Arlecchino has said herself she dislikes more feminine clothing furina does not.
Furina's story has always been about freedom, she seperated her divinity from her body & now she's finally free to live on as a human bc that was her dream, the freedom she always desired pre focafuri split. She knows now that she doesn't have to be alone to have that.