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This should go without saying, but I retweet a lot of NSFW content (as if 🔞 in my bio wasn't any indication). If you're not a fan of seeing anime toddies on your TL, I wouldn't recommend following me.
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Leaving the Echo Chamber: A former Anti's story.
TW: Some pretty taboo stuff is in this thread. But trust me, I'm only using them to illustrate the hypocrisy of the Anti-Proship movement.
Let me show you just how deep this rabbit hole goes...
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Hot take/harsh truth:
The people who “criticize” lolicons or loli in general have ZERO grasp on the concept of fiction. How the hell do you look at this and think, “that’s a LITERAL child,” when said “child” can be anything I want IT to be? Emphasis on “it….”
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I can tell you weren’t around when this was the height of Twitter Drama.
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This needs to be said: for those who criticize lolicons for liking fictional characters for being “1000 years old but she looks 5 years old,” I’m sorry but you’re mad sus. Not “you need to be put on a list” sus, just regular sus. Let me explain:
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“But she looks like a child!”
What do you think about dwarves and short-stacks? Do you consider them to be children, or do you have this ODD bias that women are only women if they have wide hips, plump ass and giant tits? Body shaming much?
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LIKE HOLY SHIT. EVEN THE SATANIC PANIC AND THE JACK THOMPSON ERA DIDN'T HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE WHINING ABOUT WHAT'S OK TO PUT IN FICTION. ARE YOU THAT INSECURE THAT YOU'RE LETTING A FICTIONAL CHARACTER'S TITS DETERMINE YOUR SELF-WORTH?!
DUDE, GO OUTSIDE!
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I'll say this about The Human Centipede: as disgusting as this trilogy is, you've gotta give Tom Six credit for having common sense.
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For one: antis often call lolicons pedophiles for “sexualizing children.” So then why do they complain when lolicons instead go for characters who, by the antis’ standards, are WAY over the age of consent? 1000, 5000, even 10,000 years old and you’re worried about looks?
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Lolicon. It's one of, if not the most controversial topics in the anime community. Lolicons have arguably faced more backlash than furries, mainly because they enjoy what antis consider to be "CP."
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The mere depictions of these films are FAR MORE disturbing than what you can with a 2D anime character. My other point in bringing these films up is that when it comes to live-action, antis are dead silent. Where's the consistency? Especially when "fiction affects reality."
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I owe a lot to Rev Says Desu and Hero Hei for helping me realize just how dangerous and toxic the anti community is. Regarding Uzaki-Chan, Hero covered an interview with
@Shibukaho
about the "controversy." Here's her take along with Hero's.
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Oh, and this is just a small nitpick. Nothing too serious. Antis are known to tell others to kill themselves. The proship community isn't perfect, but these instances are FAR less common.
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The most ironic thing about this story is that this all happened because he warned a 14-year-old not to give her personal information to random strangers on Facebook.
(But most, if not, all antis wouldn't care anyway.)
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And admittedly, I was one of those people who would repost Lolicon in an attempt to "spread awareness" (a decision which still haunts me to this day). But after some encounters with a few proshippers and even some antis who I called friends…
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But to show you all just how false accusations can ruin a person's life, look no further than Steven Rudderham. A man who took his own life after being falsely accused of being a pedophile, was doxxed and received threats of castration and hanging.
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...it's caused me to re-evaluate my beliefs about lolicon and the anti-culture in general. The first time I joined a fandom, my goal was to have fun and meet new people with similar interests. Sounds pretty innocent, right? And for a while, that was the case.
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If you don't agree with lolicon or the proship standard, that's fine by me. If you don't care about lolicon and taboo: rather you simply avoid because you find them disgusting, that's fine (in fact, valid.) Admittedly, I do this when I met with something makes me uncomfortable.
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One thing I legit DESPISE is that antis will claim after claim that people who lolicon are pedophiles without a shred of evidence. And even if they do, their “evidence” just amounts to, "you like drawings of this," or "you jerk off to that."
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You guys keep saying that you’re tired of “independent female” hairstyle, yet I don’t see you giving praise to (IMO) the one exception…..
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And EVEN IF people like this didn’t exist in real life, SO FUCKING WHAT?! IT’S FICTION! I can do whatever the hell I want! That’s the beauty of creativity.
Here’s an excerpt from a “debate” I had an anti. Here’s the full thing if you’re interested.
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...and didn't bother doing my own research because I assumed they were telling the truth (when it comes to people you know, you're more inclined to believe them. Regardless of whether they present evidence or not.) For 3 years, even after leaving the fandom…
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As Rev mentioned in some of his videos, antis will cite The Protect Act from 2003 as proof that lolicon is illegal. Let me explain why this is NOT the hill you want to die on with some examples of my own.
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We discussed our favourite characters, ships, episodes, etc. Just like any other fandom. The years went by, free of conflict until someone come across an animation from Zone-tan (You can probably guess where this is heading...
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Of course, like many antis on Twitter today, the animation was reposted and discussed among the group, while accusing Zone-Tan of being a predator (of course, using an animation as "evidence." 🤦♂️). For a long time. I firmly believed the accusations…
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If the Protect Act really is enforced, then the films I just listed (especially A Serbian Film) would NOT exist. Or at the very least, the people involved would be facing MASSIVE repercussions, if not, being flat-out executed.
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After all these events with the false accusations, the double standards regarding fiction, and the complete lack of critical thinking and self-awareness lead me to the conclusion that I'm done being an Anti. I'm done making false assumptions, and I'm going to think BEFORE I talk.
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I'm sure most of you are familiar with the "where are her organs" and the "that's unrealistic" rhetoric. It was this rhetoric that first pushed against my view of anti ideology, which consequently bled into my views on lolicon and fiction in general.
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"Grow some balls."
This coming from the same person who wished death upon somebody and doesn't care to rectify it.
Also, dude. You blocked me on all of your accounts after people call you out for the shit you've said.
Fuck off.
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...(mainly due to losing passion for said fandom), the Anti mindset stuck with me going into Twitter. Granted, I did have a Twitter account and was part of a separate fandom. But trust me, this all has a point.
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But it wasn't the situations mentioned above. It wasn't even the fact that the antis accused artists (who were minding their own business) of being terrible people. No. The thing that REALLY got me re-examining the anti mindset is...
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During my time in the Twitter fandom, I was constantly bombarded with Tweets calling J. Scott Campbell's art "unrealistic" while saying he shouldn't draw, and accusing Pablo Romero of "sexualizing minors."
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Regarding Illulu, Rev covered some Twitter beef surrounding her character design. Similar to JSC and Pablo, any fans of said design were met with false accusations.
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Can white people say the N-word? Give your reason why?
Yes
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If you've made it this far, thank you so much for reading. I don't expect this thread to change anything, but even if I doesn't change any anti's mind, even if met with false accusations and have my account suspended, can't say I didn't try.
Take it easy. 😃👍)
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Tusk (2014) - A journalist's legs are cut off at the knee, his arms are sewn to his torso, his tongue is ripped out so he can't talk and he's placed into a walrus suit made of human skin.
Oh, remember the legs? Those were used to make the tusks.
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A Serbian Film (2010) - An aging porn star who's struggling to provide for his family agrees to make a film that, unbeknownst to him, contains themes of incest, necrophilia and even PEDOPHILIA, and may even end with his death.
(Yes, you read that right.)
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To prove his innocence, Deodato had four of the actors interviewed and showcased how an impalement scene was achieved. After providing all the evidence that no people were harmed in the film, he was later cleared but the film was still banned in multiple countries.
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Although, if you're going to be overly aggressive towards me because your standards don't align with mine, or you hate the idea of someone defending something that you find disgusting, then I don't know what to say to you.
Down below are my sources:
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Even if the quote is fake, the point still stands: Japanese creators aren’t obligated to put black people in their media. You know what ? Let’s reverse this line of thinking: Why aren’t their any Japanese people in Nigerian or Jamaican films?
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While we're on the topic of disturbing movies, Ruggero Deodato was charged with obscenity and murder 10 days after his directorial debut, Cannibal Holocaust. Mainly because the audience believed that the violence in the film appeared to be really happening.
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The Human Centipede (2009) - A deranged surgeon wants his morbid fantasy to come true by joining 3 people together through their gastric systems. He pulls this off and his success makes the audience quite ill, especially when the man at the front of the chain needs to defecate.
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YouTubers try not to go after loli because it's easy and don't give a fuck about actual kids challenge (FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE)
You might want to argue that Loli isn't child porn and that's fine but it's 100% pedo adjacent. Just know you're making that argument. You want to be as close as humanly possible to pedophilia. That's your hill.
:)
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Who the fuck looks like this?
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Also, why is it they apply age to an inanimate object? Here’s a newsflash for you:
The age of a fictional is nothing more than a tool to help being the character to life.
Stan Lee gave Spider-Man the money worries and such to make the reader relate to Spider-Man…
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Go fuck yourself, you bodyshaming piece of shit.
@JiggleBoxxNSFW
@Chiibihime
@fyournan
@MinistryofOtaku
@boi_nubby
@TomtheGenius64
regardless of what her argument is, this character still looks like a fucking child and jacking of to it would be absolutely disgusting 🫠🫠🫠
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Dude, how the fuck do you look at a fucking echidna or a green alien and think "Yeah, man. He's black?"
And don't give me any of this fucking nonsense about "representation."
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Also shoutout to:
@red_devil330
@JiggleBoxxNSFW
@finalmasterm0dx
Special thanks to guys for helping me with my research.
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WTF?!
We need to get the word out.
@JiggleBoxxNSFW
@Loliconomist_
@MildGoofening
@finalmasterm0dx
@Msgkcorrector
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Just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks for reading.
@finalmasterm0dx
@JiggleBoxxNSFW
@SoraNee22
@UnmeltingIce
@AntisWTF
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I’m truly sorry for what I’ve done. No excuses. Just taking responsibility.
Read:
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…not because there were Spider-Men in our world with money problems.
Might have more to say, but I’ll end it here for now.
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Jesus Christ. I somehow managed to find a video worse than Duncan’s take on loli.
It’s clear you didn’t do research on the subject.
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“Guys this is CP!”
*proceeds to show it*
Where’s the proof that liking lolis leads to the sexual abuse of minors as you claim?
Fucking retard.
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Just leaving these here.
These were all taken from Destiny’s Discord, btw.
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Rant time.
What the hell did NetherRealm do these 2? No, seriously. Why do they hate Baraka & Mileena so much? I know other characters were assassinated as well, but for characters as old as them, it just confuses me.
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I’m not sure you know what childlike means.
Pedophiles don’t want fictional characters. They want children.
@RSKDJT
It's basic inductive reasoning.
1. Pedophiles are attracted to children
2. Irl cp is very illegal and hard to come by
3. Loli anime/manga often sexualize childlike characters
=> it provides a non risky way for them to access childlike characters depicted sexually
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Same guy, btw.
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I'm done.
Fuck all of this.
Brittany Venti and those like her? I despise them.
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Who and why the fuck would you pay for an Onlyfans when you can go to the Hub and get that shit for free?
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Y’all need to stop falsely accusing people of serious crimes and/or watering down serious terms.
It’s disgusting.
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Hey,
@DuncanCantDie
, it's not our fault that you're a complete dickhead because you can't handle being wrong. At the VERY least, attempt to refute what we're saying. Matter of fact, I'm gonna refute this dogshit comment.
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Prove that lolis attract pedophiles.
@RSKDJT
It's not a body type it's a character archetype. Real people can't be lolis.
An yes, designing characters to look like children and then sexualizing them is going to attract pedophiles.
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Fuck Xanderhal and fuck anyone who supports this piece of shit.
Fucking disingenuous cunt.
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The fact lolicons haven’t tried suing the antis for defamation is FUCKING insane.
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If there are any proshippers who want someone who vent to regarding antis, don’t be afraid to reach out to me.
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I refuse to believe the person’s Jamaican.
Seriously getting “blackface to make blacks look stupid and/or ugly” vibes from this.
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@Ecchi___
@ItsMeIriri
@Hentiisbest
Damn can't believe the Epsteins pedo-squad came in to act as if cranking loli is some how different than cranking it to children
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Easily one of the worst threads I’ve seen.
I’m sorry you were harassed, but when you compare people who enjoy fiction to pedophiles, what the fuck were expecting?
Then act shocked when they use your own bullshit standard against you?
Sorry, but I’m not taking you seriously.
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