Krzysztof Iwanek
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🇵🇱Interested in Indian politics and history. Asia Coordinator at @Economic_Forum_ . Author of two books on India. Writes for The Diplomat. Private opinions.
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In case it is of interest to someone: most of my texts for The Diplomat (
@Diplomat_APAC
), which I am a regular contributor to, are collected here👇
These are mostly my thoughts on Indian foreign policy and politics.
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Pakistan: the only country in the world which defeated the US without fighting the US and while being a US ally.
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As the Prime Minister of India is landing in Poland, a short thread on some of the interesting interactions between Poland and India throughout history. I frankly admit that being very busy today, I am putting together a thread from my older tweets.
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A new survey has revealed which Indian dish is most popular in the West. 84% respondents voted for curry ninda.
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Today, on the occasion of Republic Day, I received a letter of gratitude from Prime Minister Narendra Modi for my work on India. The letter was handed in to me by HE Nagma M. Mallick, the Indian ambassador to Poland.
On the occasion of our 73rd Republic Day, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has written to Mr. Krzysztof Iwanek,a South Asia expert and the Head of the Asia Research Centre, War Studies University, Poland and conveyed his greetings.
#AmritMahotsav
@MEAIndia
@PMOIndia
@IndianDiplomacy
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Nine years ago,
@Adam_Burakowski
and I wrote a history of India ('India. From colony to a power. 1857-2013') in Polish.
Few years later, he became the ambassador of Poland to India. Seeing how he is now engaged in 🇮🇳-🇵🇱 relations, I am even more glad I had been his coauthor.
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I jeszcze to się stało na marginesie wizyty premiera Indii w Polsce. Wczoraj z tej okazji napisałem wątek zbierający różne ciekawe (mam nadzieję) przypadki indyjsko-polskich interakcji na przestrzeni dziejów.
Dziś rano ten wątek pochwalił i podał dalej... premier Indii.
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Highly deserved. Professor Byrski is a great Indologist, fluent in both Sanskrit and Hindi, with vast knowledge of Indian classical theatre (among others), the translator of Manusmriti and Kamasutra from Sanskrit to Polish.
Polish national and Sanskrit scholar Maria Christopher Byrski honoured with Padma Shri By Indian Govt. He also served as Poland's envoy to India from 1994 to 1996.
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Was the West clearly on India's side during India-Pakistan tensions? No.
Was the West clearly on India's side during India-China tensions? No.
So can we just simply say now: 'Hey India, you must be on our side?'
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This text claims that Mein Kampf is used as a leadership textbook in some Indian business courses.
Not only this is false but makes no sense. Author should read Mein Kampf first: it is bollocks, a chaotic stream of thoughts, useless as leadership textbook.
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I turned 40 today. This year will also mark 20 years since I had become a student of Indology (at Warsaw University).This means I have already been learning about India for half of my life.
And of course I will be learning for the rest of it and will still have so much too learn.
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Z żalem żegnam Ośrodek Badań Azji (
@osrodekazji
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Unlike countries like UK and France, Poland never conquered territories in India in the early modern period. However, there was an attempt in the 18th century when two Polish ships tried to entered the Bay of Bengal to open trade with India...
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Many may disagree, but I am with
@jamescrabtree
on this. I agree with most of this text.
It is a wrong approach to tell the Indian government what we want it to do. What we (the broader West, should do) is to cooperate with India whenever both sides want it.
Should the west play hardball with India over Ukraine? Better to recognise Modi's security dilemmas re tighter Russia / China ties, and help New Delhi reduce its arms imports, as I argue in
@NikkeiAsia
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'Oh, but Ukraine sold arms to Pakistan!'
Here is some data: in last two decades, Ukraine sold more military hardware (in value) to India than to Pakistan.
I am not among those saying New Delhi must pick a side. But singling out 🇺🇦 on social media for deals with 🇵🇰 is unfair.
What are Ukraine’s 🇺🇦 top arms export destinations (2010-2020)?
1. China 🇨🇳
2. Russia 🇷🇺
3. Thailand 🇹🇭
4. Ethiopia 🇪🇹
5. India 🇮🇳
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I had a pleasure to be invited to a closed meeting with
@SriSri
Ravi Shankar ji yesterday.
I thanked the guru for holding a meditation event in Warsaw for the sake of peace in Ukraine as the country continues to suffer from Russian invasion.
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Would I like India to condemn Russia? Yes.
Do I consider Russian actions as blatant invasion of Ukraine? Yes.
Would I like as much countries to support Ukraine? Yes.
But did we, the West, always support India when India needed it? No.
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A more known story from WWII were the Polish children, let out of the Soviet Union after being exiled (=imprisoned) there by Moscow. Thousands of them found refuge in India: near Kolhapur and in Balachadi, in Jamnagar. Today, this history is a symbol of Poland-India friendship.
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...only that those ships, Neptun and Koń Polski, turned out not the be even Polish, but Austrians sailing under a Polish flag, hoping this would allow them to bypass the British-Dutch monopoly. They failed: the ships were halted by the British and Dutch.
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In 2010, I started an initiative to honour maharaja Digvijaysinhji who gave shelter to hundreds of Polish children during the Second World War. With the help of others, the initiative led to the maharaja being given a posthumous state award by the Polish president in 2012.
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Indian hospitality - short story.
Twice in my life I worked in the Indian Parliament Library. There is a restaurant inside but apart from this it is hard to even get snacks or tea nearby - it's New Delhi, government area, there are no restaurants, dhabas or even stalls around.
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The US reaction to India's 1998 nuclear tests was one of the low points of India-US relations.
What is less known is that Japan acted against India too.
And though Russia usually avoids criticism of India, Yeltsin spoke against India too.
Seema Sirohi, 'Friends with Benefits'👇
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I wrote this four years ago: how Dumont got the caste system wrong, how we, Indologists, had been treating his words like doctrine, how it took academics like professor Guha to destroy Dumont's myths, and how this is a lesson on how to write about India.
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There were more interactions in 19th-20th century. A Polish painter, Stefan Norblin, fled to India during the 2nd World War and painted the murals of the Umaid Bhavan palace in Jodhpur. Here is my old thread about it, with a link to a documentary on this.
Today marks the 80th anniversary of German aggression on Poland which started the II World War. Link to India (and particularly Bombay and Jodhpur)? In face of the attack, some 300 Poles managed to escape to India, through Romania, Turkey and Iraq, and then by the sea, to Bombay.
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The ships were turned backed and all that Poland got out of it was an international scandal.
As for real Poles in early modern India, there weren't many of them - usually mercenaries, missionaries or travellers.
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India's neutrality on Russia's invasion of Ukraine divided Western commentators between the critics and defenders of India's position. I believe the first group can be called the normativists and the second - the realists. I summarise this debate here👇
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If you want to read more about this, the most exhaustive volume I know is this one - some of the authors are the very children who stayed in India during World War II! (available in Polish too)
'Poles in India 1942-1948' is a very interesting collection of texts on the Polish children that were hosted in India during the Second World War. More interestingly, some of the authors who prepared this volume belonged to that group of children.
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The way forwards is to find areas of convergence, not sermonize India on the aspects on whih disagree. Sermonizing will likely lead to reverse results.
Let us just face it: West and India have a growing convergence of interests on China. They have no convergence on Russia.
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Such things indeed happen on Indian and Nepali mountain roads. Yes, it is usually not that extreme. But this shows why Indian and Nepali drivers should be paid more - and tipped better by tourists. Short thread with my private experience👇
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Can we verify BJP's new claim that the Congress is funded by Soros? No, because nowadays parties in India do not have to reveal who funds them. This was a decision made by *checks notes*... the BJP government.
(Also, blaming Soros for everything is Antisemitic dogwhistle).
The new age Ravan is here. He is Evil. Anti Dharma. Anti Ram. His aim is to destroy Bharat.
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Another connection: the original master plan of Chandigarh was prepared by a Polish architect, Maciej Nowicki, and an American one, Albert Mayer.
Here is my old thread about this:
Connection between Chandigarh and Poland? The original master plan of Chandigarh was prepared by a Polish architect, Maciej Nowicki, and an American one, Albert Mayer.
Nowicki died in a plane crash in 1950, however, when flying from Bombay to New York.
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🇮🇳India's relations with three powers in one tweet:
🇨🇳China - economically, an important trade partner, but strategically, a rival;
🇷🇺Russia - economically, an insignificant trade partner, but strategically, a partner;
🇺🇸US - economically and strategically, an important partner
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Results so far:
AAP: 40%
TUM: 25%
TU [Disrespectful]: 20%
TU [Intimate]: 10%
AAP but with ho not hain: 5%
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On hearing the sad news of the death of Dilip Kumar, I take the liberty to bring out a little-known fact. One of the songs in the movie Madhumati, which starred Dilip Kumar and Vyjayanthimala, was based on a Polish song.
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As for Russia-India cooperation,
@jamescrabtree
makes a good point: the only constructive approach is for the West to offer India more of the stuff which India is now getting from Russia. This is how we can influence India-Russia ties without sermonizing India.
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Here is my ground-breaking commentary about events in Kazakhstan: I have not been there, I do not know the Kazakh language, I have not read anything about the country and I have no idea what will happen next, so I will keep my mouth shut and not comment.
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Dobra, teraz już chyba mogę o tym publicznie napisać. Premier Indii Narendra Modi odwiedzi w przyszłym tygodniu Polskę i Ukrainę. To pierwsza wizyta premiera Indii w Polsce od lat 1970.
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There was also a Polish Jew, Maurycy Frydman, who moved to India before IIWW, got influenced by Ramana Maharishi and Krishnamurti, converted to Hinduism, became an associate of Gandhi, and helped Gandhi prepare the constitution of the princely state of Aundh.
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Written in the early 18th century (before the British conquest of India even began), the Marathi treatise Adnyapatra warned that the Europeans weren't ordinary businessmen, that they wanted to penetrate deep into India, to extend their kingdoms. Everything turned out true.
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Oh, and did you know that a song from Bollywood movie Madhumati was based on a melody of a Polish folk song?
Here's (again...) my old thread about it.
On hearing the sad news of the death of Dilip Kumar, I take the liberty to bring out a little-known fact. One of the songs in the movie Madhumati, which starred Dilip Kumar and Vyjayanthimala, was based on a Polish song.
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BREAKING: I have just uncovered China's secret plan for massive investment in Central Asia, AfPak and Iran. Worth 6 gazillion Australian dollars, it is to consist of three separate economic belts, only one of which will be shaped like 6.
Source: some geopolitcs expert on TT.
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US: So, India, would you like a formal alliance or do you choose cooperation without alliance?
India: Yes.
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There are quotes from Rigveda and the Upanishads engraved into the walls of the Warsaw University Library. They were selected by a Polish Sanskrit scholar, Professor Joanna Jurewicz. Recently, she was awarded an ICCR award for her work (mostly on Rigveda).
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I gave an interview in Hindi to
@umashankarsingh
of NDTV: I spoke of the aid which 🇵🇱 is giving to 🇺🇦 , and that I understand 🇮🇳's neutrality, but I am kindly asking Indian viewers not to listen to Russian propaganda: war crimes in Ukraine are being commited by Russian army.
भारत की न्यूट्रैलिटी को हम समझते हैं और कद्र भी करते हैं परन्तु भारत को रुस के युद्ध अपराध के ख़िलाफ़ खुल कर बोलना चाहिए :
@Chris_Iwanek
पूरी बातचीत 👇
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Since today, finally, my country, Poland, will be connected by a direct flight to India. The first flight by LOT (Polish state airlines) departs today.
Last time Warsaw and Delhi had a direct air connection was deep in 1990s.
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On my first travel in a crowded local Delhi train, two men kindly shared their space with me. The three of us thus sat on two seats. In time I learned it was normal in India.
This one event taught me about two crucial aspects of Indian life: adjusting and seat-sharing agreements.
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I cannot stand Elon Musk buying Twitter. This is too much. I am leaving Twitter.
Good night everyone and see you tomorrow.
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Phew, that was quick. After 14 years of work, my book on Vidya Bharati (RSS) schools in India is going to print. Titled 'Endless Siege. Education and Nationalism in Vidya Bharati schools' it should come out in May 2022.
Publisher: Oxford University Press.
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Ghoshal wrote several books about Poland in Bengali; he taught at the chair of Indology. One of the halls of Warsaw University Indology chair was named after him. After his death, he was buried with honours at the Powązki cementary.
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Witkacy later described his experiences of Sri Lanka and India in a quirky novel set in India, A Farewell to Autumn. I wrote about this in this text for The Diplomat.
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But when they returned, one of them came by my desk and handed me a cup. 'It's tea, for you' - he said simply.
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Thousands of Polish children were hosted in India during WWII. Most of them later left - one of the persons who stayed was Wanda Nowicka who married an Indian, Mr. Kashikar. Their granddaughter is Apeksha Niranjan, a Bharatanatyam dancer, who will perform in Warsaw tomorrow.
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A Bengali academic, Hiranmoy Ghoshal, was hired at Warsaw University before WWII. During the war, he fled to India with his Polish wife, where he worked at the Polish consulate in Bombay and helped the same Polish children. Then he returned to Poland and lived there till the end.
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You probably heard of one of the founding fathers of ethnography, Bronisław Malinowski. When Malinowski sailed to begin his research in Australia and Oceania, he took with himself a famous Polish writer and painter, Witkacy. They stayed for a short time in India and Sri Lanka.
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14 lat temu rozpocząłem wraz z Centrum Studiów Polska-Azja, w tym
@RadekPyffel
, inicjatywę wzywającą władze Warszawy, by nazwały imieniem maharadży Nawanagaru skwer.
Udało się - skwer na Ochocie nazwano imieniem Dobrego Maharadży.
Wczoraj złożył na nim kwiaty premier Indii.
PM
@narendramodi
paid respects at the Jam Saheb of Nawanagar Memorial in Warsaw, Poland. The memorial honours the humanitarian efforts of Jam Saheb Digvijaysinhji Ranjitsinhji Jadeja, who provided shelter and care to homeless Polish children during World War II.
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There is a stationery company in Hyderabad, Kaybee. Its name carries in it a memory of a Polish woman who had established it - Kira Banasińska (Kaybee for her initials - KB)
Kira Banasińska was the wife of the Polish consul in Bombay before, and during the Second World War...
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Oh, and did you know that Poland, India - and South Korea! - happen to share the date of their one national holiday? August 15.
August 15 happens to be the national day of 3 countries I lived in and to which my life is connected: Poland, India and South Korea.
Poland: Armed Forces Day and Assumption of Mary
India: Independence Day
Korea: National Liberation Day
Wishing all three countries all the best.
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I am trying to separate my private views from the foreign policy of the Indian government. As a Polish person, I would like India to be on one side: in alliance with the West. But as a person following Indian foreign policy, I know this is not what New Delhi wants.
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16 साल पहले की बात है । एक भारतीय श्रीमती ने मुझसे पूछा:
- आपकी माता जी क्या करती हैं ?
- गणित पढ़ाती है । - मैंने जवाब दिया ।
- यह... गणित क्या है ? – वह सोचने लगी लेकिन दूसरी श्रीमती ने उसको समझाया:
- गणित तो अंग्रेज़ी शब्द है । हिंदी में उसको mathematics कहते हैं ।
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India and Pakistan have two missiles that bear the same name.
India purchased the Israeli Barak missile and retained its Hebrew name.
Pakistan called one of its missiles Barq, an Arabic word.
But both barak and barq mean the same ('lightning') and come from the same Semitic root.
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...Kira Banasińska also helped the Polish children during WWII. But she and her husband decided to stay and became Indian citizens. They established a company, Kaybee Equipments. Kira died in India but the company exists: I think it's called Kaybee School Equipment Manufacturing.
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August 15 happens to be the national day of 3 countries I lived in and to which my life is connected: Poland, India and South Korea.
Poland: Armed Forces Day and Assumption of Mary
India: Independence Day
Korea: National Liberation Day
Wishing all three countries all the best.
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Also a person who did a lot for Indo-Polish relations: not only a former ambassador to India but also a person who worked to commemorate the late maharaja of Nawanagar for hosting Polish children during WWII.
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Savarkar wrote that Aryans migrated from Tibet.
Tilak wrote that Aryans migrated from the North Pole.
In my mind, anyone who says Aryans migrated to India is the most radical person. One should beware of such deadly people.
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Just a sample of his scope of knowledge of Indian culture: I took both his Hindi and Sanskrit classes, and in Hindi class, we worked on a modern play, Mr. Abhimanyu; in Sanskrit class, we had to learn Shivatandavastotram by heart.
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United States, the leader of the f̵r̵e̵e̵ transactional world.
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Today marks the 80th anniversary of German aggression on Poland which started the II World War. Link to India (and particularly Bombay and Jodhpur)? In face of the attack, some 300 Poles managed to escape to India, through Romania, Turkey and Iraq, and then by the sea, to Bombay.
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14 years I started an initiative, with
@RadekPyffel
and the Poland-Asia Research Centre, petitioning the Polish authorities to name a square in Warsaw after the Maharaja of Nawanagar. It succeeded.
Now this square is part of 🇮🇳🇵🇱relations: the PM of India paid his respects there.
PM
@narendramodi
paid respects at the Jam Saheb of Nawanagar Memorial in Warsaw, Poland. The memorial honours the humanitarian efforts of Jam Saheb Digvijaysinhji Ranjitsinhji Jadeja, who provided shelter and care to homeless Polish children during World War II.
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A Polish professor, Aleksandrowicz, taught at Madras University in 1950s. He founded the Madras Law School there (a school of thought, not an institution).
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Since 2001 Pakistan was secretly supporting the Taliban. It is now laying the ground to do it openly, I argue in my new text for
@Diplomat_APAC
. Pakistani politicians diluted the responsibility of the Taliban and questioned the mandate of Kabul government.
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PAP ma w Azji... jednego korespondenta (w Chinach). W Indiach nie ma. Kiedy teraz premier Indii był w Warszawie, nie mieliśmy korespondenta, by śledzić reakcje na tę wizytę w Indiach. O tych i innych aspektach polityki Polski wobec Azji rozmawiałem z red.
@kwojcicka98
dla DGP.👇
MSZ i MON powinny dużo więcej inwestować w wiedzę, która pomoże nam zweryfikować, co polskie firmy mają szansę ugrać w krajach takich jak Indie. Teraz zaplecze eksperckie praktycznie u nas nie istnieje - mówi mi
@Chris_Iwanek
w ważnej rozmowie dot. zainteresowania 🇵🇱 Azją.
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In Zakopane, there is a mansion called Villa Atma. A musician, Karol Szymanowski, once lived there. The name is of course from Sanskrit. The name was chosen because in late 19th century/early 20th century there was a rising interest in the East (including India) in Europe.
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In 1850, the king of Nepal Jang Bahadur visited France. Due to the rules of ritual impurity, the Nepali delegation refused to accept cooked food whenever they were at a party and only ate fruit. They also dined in separate chambers from their European hosts.
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Once I saw a board on a dhaba in Pushkar (Rajasthan), a touristy place that attracts a lot of foreigners. The board was bilingual and this is what it said:
Thaali – 25 Rupees.
थाली - २० रुपये
Studying Indology paid off:p
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The International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration (IAST), a transliteration system, uses the ś letter to transliterate the श symbol. This ś letter is taken from Polish - it was chosen to represent श because ś and श represent very similar sounds.
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W Polsce powstała 1 (!) książka o gospodarce współczesnych Indii, ale bardzo dobra. Autorem jest Sebastian Domżalski (
@SebastianD_PL
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A blast from the past: in 1980 my parents applied to get a landline phone connected in their flat. The Communist authorities bluntly replied that it may be possible in 1985 at earliest - after five years! (and now we can't live for 5 minutes without a smartphone).
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Where can you read academic books on India online, legally and for free?
I cover this in my new piece for
@Diplomat_APAC
.
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On Hindi Diwas, a bunch of words that accidently sound somewhat similar in Hindi and Polish:
- 'pani': 'water' in Hindi, 'Madam' in Polish
- 'pan': 'betel' in Hindi, 'Sir' in Polish
- 'pustak': 'book' in Hindi, 'a brick with empty space inside it' in Polish
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When my older son (10 years) was returning from a jiujitsu camp recently (having been a week away from home) my wife called him to ask what kind of home food was he missing, to cook it for his arrival:
-Dal and chapatis - he said - followed by masala chai.
(yes, they're Polish)
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In the Communist era, the Polish shipyard in Gdynia produced landing ships for the Indian navy. These were the Polnocny ('Northern' in Polish) ships - some were classified as Kumbhir-class in India.
In India, they served under names such as Shardul, Sharabh, Guldar, Cheetah.
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There were Polish smugglers operating in India in late 1980s. They would buy electronics in places like Singapore or Moscow and smuggle them into India (to go around the customs, I guess). One of them wrote a book later in which he describes all this, but I still haven't read it.
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@swarajk224
Thanks for reminding me. I forgot about this but it is a very useful reminder, like other statements by Hamid Gul I had once read. Generally, statements made by former Pakistani officers are often one of the most revealing about the country's foreign policy.
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@PBPaszportu
@MON_GOV_PL
Mateuszu, bardzo dziękuję za słowa wsparcia. Dziękuję również, że przez te lata wykazywałeś takie zainteresowanie pracą naszego ośrodka i zapraszałeś członków naszego zespołu do swojego podcastu.
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Once Russia loses all tanks in this war*, it will be confirned it is an a-tank-vaadi desh.
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Another example of a bad direction of things. Can someone who disagrees with prof. Kaul come to UK and voice their opinion on a conference? Yes.
So prof. Kaul should be allowed to come to India all the same.
IMPORTANT: Denied entry to
#India
for speaking on democratic & constitutional values. I was invited to a conference as esteemed delegate by Govt of
#Karnataka
(Congress-ruled state) but Centre refused me entry. All my documents were valid & current (UK passport & OCI). THREAD 1/n
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“There was an idea to bring together a group of remarkable countries. Now let us see if they should become something more than a group set against China.”
In my new piece for
@Diplomat_APAC
, I argue that China remains the Quad’s common denominator.
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Someone uploaded a project of a Lego Tata truck to Lego Ideas page. If this project gets 10,000 followers, Lego will consider producing it as its official set. So: the project needs 10,000 votes by those who have accounts on Lego Ideas page (everyone can).
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In South Asia, Japan has stepped in to cooperate with India against China, I argue in my new piece for The Diplomat (
@Diplomat_APAC
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In 1966, the Singapore PM Lee Kuan Yew 'complained about failing to get [Indira] Gandhi interested in an 'Asian regional arrangement to contain China'.'
Turns out he was right about this... but also now it's India, not Singapore, that is in the forefront of these actions.
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Some Indian movies were partially shot in Poland. The most famous one was Fanaa (later also Kick). The Kashmir in Fanaa is actually the Polish Tatra mountains.
I wrote about this connection here (that was in 9 years ago, my first text for the DIplomat)
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Kuch log is baat par tweet kar rahe hain ki unhone teis saal ki umr me kyaa-kyaa kiyaa. Kya kahoon, teis saail ki umr me main to pehli baar India gayaa.
Pahunchte hi pata chalaa ki maine to koi nayaa, bada kaam nahi kiyaa. Mere aane se pahle vahaan savaa sau crore log base the.
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@chenweihua
@vtchakarova
Ah, those Westerners... they even appointed a Chinese soldier who fought against Indians in the Galwan river valley to play a role during the Olympic torch ceremony. What a nasty wedge to put between India and China. How did the Westerners sneak in and how did they influence him?
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Arnab Goswami at the end of this interview: 'We stand with the people of Ukraine'
[Yes, the world of Indian media is not black-and-white, and much more complex than a simple division between two sides.]
#ArnabZelenskyyInterview
| India is a very powerful state in the world, I invite India also to be a security guarantor if they’d be willing:
@ZelenskyyUa
speaks to Arnab on Republic TV
Tune in to watch here -
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Religion should be kept away from politics. Tabhi to vaidik zamane me bhi rishi mantri nahi hote the.
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Happy 75th wedding anniversary to Mr. Bharat and his wife, Mrs. Azadi.
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