Steve McVeigh
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Liverpool need to be very careful. History is a good teacher. Dortmund CEO, Watzke, on when Klopp left Dortmund: "Maybe it would've been better if we'd changed the team and not the coach. It was obvious we'd never have such a coach again, but you can get such players again."
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Liverpool are going to run Fabinho into the ground. He'll be done by 32 at this rate. Has to cover at least 2 positions in that midfield. Can only put out so many fires. The lack of pace is an issue, too. Needed an overhaul. Starting in June 2022.
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Liverpool went into the midfield market with a begging bowl. Signed an injury prone midfielder. He's now out for 3-4 months. Couldn't make it up.
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Liverpool will attain a manager who will win more than Jurgen. It may be someone 10-20 years down the line, but we'll never have a fella like this again. The communal spirit he fostered. The emotion & connection. An inspirational figure who took Liverpool out of the doldrums.
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Endo is a good hearted pro. He's performed better than i expected, but Liverpool need an elite 6 in the summer.
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Stevie G was let down at Liverpool. Allison and Salah will go the same way. This club likes to pat itself on the back. Never puts the hammer down when it's climbed Everest. Total lack of foresight and ambition. A peaks and troughs organisation.
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Chequebook manager. Never had to coach his way out of adversity. Just ploughed another 50m on a centre half or full back. Player A comes off. Player B comes on of comparable quality/cost. Can't lose. How can anyone respect that route to success. It's a blag.
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Liverpool need new ownership and pretty sharpish. Very apparent. Never known a Top 6 club (revenue wise) plead poverty as much.
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Klopp went to bat for Henderson's new 4 year deal. Openly wanted Firmino to stay on. By all accounts, he's open to another Milner extension. This isn't a good look. This is a man potentially never learning. I have to be objective about it.
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Klopp's loyalty to the hapless Henderson a fatal error. It's killing the team.
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City looking to join Liverpool on 8 league cups. The Reds were comfortably the governor in the league cup. Under threat now due to essentially neglecting the domestic cups. You can't win the big two trophies every season. Our cup record since 2012 has been embarrassing.
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If Liverpool aren't actively trying to buy a quality, robust midfield player, they're sleepwalking into disaster. That's how key Thiago is to our game. Keita made of glass to boot. Henderson serving up sewage as an 8. It's absolutely imperative.
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Henderson an absolute shambles off the ball. Trent overloaded with 3 players. Wasn't just an isolated incident. He's getting little help from his skipper in that right sided midfield role
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Couldn't be arsed with Jude Bellingham. Liverpool need three midfielders. He kills the budget.
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See that flag. A certain Frenchman deserves a bit more respect. Not just the trophies won. He killed a culture that was holding the club back. Brought some solidity and pride back into the club. At home and abroad.
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City have a superior midfied to Liverpool's. Simple really. More reliable in the fitness/availability department, too. A better unit working in perfect harmony. Klopp has to address this. Ideally two are needed.
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If you're English and good with the local media, you'll get a free pass. Not the first time I've seen Liverpool's midfield three turn to positional rubble. Who was the designated 6 last night.
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Liverpool would be fortunate to finish Top 4 as things stand. Major strengthening in defence and midfield is a minimum requirement. You can't win anything with a defence built on sand. Konate/Van Dijk can't play every game.
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Ox and Milner will go. As will Keita. Henderson in decline. Thiago has his issues. That's a lot of midfield surgery in 2023. Any potential Bellingham fee blows a budget. What are they doing?
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Liverpool should be doing Nunez and Raphinha/Gnabry. Particularly if Mane leaves. Origi is gone. We know how difficult 4 comps is to navigate. Mane, Phillips, Ox, Minamino, Williams etc. That's 80m+. This should be a major transfer offensive. Midfielder on the menu, too.
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This midfield is rancid. It's exposing the defence and attack. Every match is a basketball game. Abysmal in transition. Three fellas running in quick sand.
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City push you to the limits. Mentally and physically. Arsenal are fortunate they're not in Europe. Liverpool went toe to toe with them playing in 3-4 competitions.
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Klopp has had a poor season. It's okay to acknowledge that. He owned the midfield inertia in pre season. He's allowed the engine room age on his watch. Went to bat for Henderson's 4 year deal. It's been a failure of management and ownership.
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Klopp is very smart. He's playing the game. Loved his subtle disdain of the financial doping/oligarch resource. Liverpool have money to spend. You'd be a fool to think otherwise. I think we'll get 1/2 in.
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I think a part of me will leave with Klopp. I wish the next guy well, but supporting
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As things stand, Liverpool have done the bare minimum. All that's attainable with this squad is a top 4 place. We'll soon realise what the level of ambition is. The defence is a shambles past Konate/Van Dijk. Arguably need two new midfield players.
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All Reds should hold their nerve. This could get a whole lot worse before it gets better. Every player and suit can leave this club before Klopp. That's my take on it. He has his flaws, but he's
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's best signing for a generation. I'd be on his back if he had Utd/City funding.
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Liverpool need quality. None of this Summerville or Bakayoko nonsense. Players that push the needle and enhance the first eleven.
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That team/squad went to physical/mental war for 4 years. At pace. It's done. Needed a major refresh. The Henderson 4 year deal summed it up. Still playing the corpse of Firmino in 2022. A ramshackle, complacent, negligent stink flowed through the Anfield corridors. All culpable
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Doesn't sit well with me when people park the blame solely on the ownership. This is collective and I'm afraid Klopp is culpable, too. Who went to bat for Henderson's 4 year deal. A flagging player in decline. Who gave Milner another 12 months or approved it. Finished.
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Not kneejerk. It's the right time for a Salah sale.
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There is no agenda against Henderson. He's simply a shocking DM. No awareness, positional sense & his technique is abject. Nowhere near first choice.
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Szoboszlai for €70m is cheap. 22 years old. Exceptional player. Price may prove prohibitive for this cheap ass ownership, though. Klopp has identified the player. Get it done.
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You won't see a worse transfer window than the one Liverpool produced in 2022. A disgrace.
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Amongst all the trophies and joy. Close shaves and CL finals. Don't let it be forgotten. Liverpool essentially sabotaged two league campaigns over Klopp's 7 year tenure. 2020-21 & 2022-23.
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Said it last week. Ideally Elliott and Carvalho are watching three elite midfielders out there. Learning and observing. Coming into cup games and the odd league match. Milner renewal. Mind boggling. Henderson 4 year deal? Staggering. These are the tough, but easy decisions
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Liverpool in deep crisis. Heading for bottom half mediocrity after Spurs do them next week. I think Klopp may walk if serious investment isn't forthcoming in January.
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When fans state they're surprised by
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91 points, top scorer in the league, best defence, 1 defeat all season, golden glove keeper & unbeaten at home in 2 years. Quite incredible.
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Liverpool have to beat City next week. A 60k bear pit. We'd have taken this in August. A home fixture to go four clear of them.
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Henderson is a good off pitch skipper. Does a lot of good work. Charity & making sure new players are well received. Sound. Most sound pros do it at that level. He's never convinced me as an on pitch skipper. Stank out 3 CL finals & couldn't inspire anything in all three finals.
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Henderson remains a problem. I think he needs to be upgraded. Milner moved on. Let the skipper take the latters position in the squad. Can still contribute on and off the park. Definitely need 1/2 midfield recruits who are technically sound.
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Wijnaldum is far too passive. Liverpool need to upgrade him. A good servant, but i want more from a midfield player.
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1 point behind. City have a two week spell of Palace (A), Spurs (H), United (A) & Burnley (A). We've a good run in now. Don't get the negative mindset. 5 at home. 4 no mark sides away. This is doable
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Watch Henderson. He can't play on the half turn with his back to play. Utterly dreadful on a technical level. First touch like a trampoline. Skipper or not we have to have some honesty. He's been poor for a long time now.
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This is a Liverpool team built on sand at present. Wing and a prayer system. The personnel just isn't there. City play it well. Their technical security is far superior to ours. Nothing has been addressed when it comes to our defensive structure.
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Love Jurgen, but he's had an absolute stinker of a season. Right back to pre season. He's going to have to be cutthroat and lacking in sentiment going forward. Or his job is in jeopardy . He owned the midfield inertia and spent 37m on Gapko. This season is on him, too
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Henderson needs to join Firmino, Keita, Ox, and Milner. He's utterly woeful in that RCM role. Routinely a 5/10 performance. That whole middle need replacing.
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Liverpool/Klopp don't react until there's fires all around them. It's not a good look. Prevent it before it happens. 90% of the fanbase had huge reservations pre season. The IQ, eye, ambition, ruthlessness & foresight are rarely present. Not until we're staring down the barrel
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Liverpool are targeting too many green players. Alexis is a fine start. If we had ambitions of taking it to City, we'd do Szoboszlai & Caicedo. About 120-130m. We instantly have one of the best engine rooms in the game. I want some certainty and pedigree. Both good ages
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The Quansah threat has summoned up the beast within Konate. Top class showing.
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Ignore the Pearce headline. Pretty apparent Klopp has opened the door for an extended stay past 2024.
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Arsenal will take Liverpool's place in next seasons CL. Liverpool drop out. Enriching a domestic rival. Arteta will have another sizeable pot to spend. Make no mistake. Liverpool under this ownership are staring down the barrel. And fast. An unforgiving league.
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Let it sink in. Alexander-Arnold stood in front of the world's media yesterday and stated Bournemouth wanted it more. Imagine your manager reading that.
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I watched City open these up 10 days ago. Incision, one touch passing, combination play, and plenty of guile. This Liverpool side turns to rubble in the face of any adversity. A very average team. Sunshine boys when Anfield is rocking.
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Liverpool couldn't be better placed. All things considered. Seriously. We'd have taken this in August. The added bonus of having City at our patch. It was always us going to the Etihad in March/April. I think we'll go very close. Great run of fixtures.
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Take Salah out of the equation. I'm not convinced by any of our attacking options. Light years away from prime Mane and Firmino. Diaz looks a diminished force.
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2-0 West Ham. Can go above United into the Europa League spots with a win over City next Sunday.
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That 2018 recruitment drive. VVD > Alisson > Fabinho. That catapulted the club into heaven. Right down the spine. That's what's needed now. A Striker & CB. The CB purchase doesn't need to be at VVD levels. Half the fee. The 9 buy has to be stellar. Time for the owners to step up
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Wouldn't be against going back in for Zubimendi. Bitterness and grudges are for immature fans. A pro like Slot would welcome him with open arms.
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€35M for Marmadashvilli. Significant outlay. I reckon Alisson has told the club he'd like a change of scenery in 12 months.
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Been a great servant Milner, but this should be his last start for Liverpool. Painful viewing.
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Fair play to Liverpool. Certainly putting a lot of faith in Slot's coaching. Good luck on the injury front.
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Jurgen has had a nightmare season. That is undeniable. He's taken a knife to a gun fight for 7 years. Fans need to hold their nerve. The ownership simply has to step up. I'm not absolving the coach. Lamentable campaign.
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Ferguson built 4-5 great teams. No sentiment or favourites. Klopp won't be around that long, but that's his next challenge. Few need moving on. Team needs to evolve. Especially up top. It's usually a 3-4 year cycle. Then you refresh.
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Henderson has given the Saudis the green light. No way back. His role was going to be diminished anyway. He should be stripped of the captaincy if he remains at the club. His heart isn't in it.
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That's 2 of the last 3 seasons that have been unacceptable for Liverpool. Too many peaks and troughs. Ownership and management have to step up to the plate. This isn't good enough.
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I never really tapped into Arsenal Twitter before yesterday. Weirdest set of freaks I've come across in a long time. Haven't won a title in 20 years.
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Liverpool are technically inept. This midfield overhaul can't come quick enough. Do they work on passing angles and receiving the ball under pressure. Serve it up too much.
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Liverpool are top with 13 to go. They've Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley & Huddersfield at home. Cardiff and Fulham away. Long way to go and we'll come out of this. Been poor the past few weeks, but we're still in a good position. City won't win 13.
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Klopp routinely never closes the door on transfer deals. Them quotes today. We're done. Take it to the bank.
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That Jorg fella needs to be sent back to Germany ASAP. The optics look terrible
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Andy Robertson is pressing too high as a LCB. The defence is then shifting across trying to plug gaps. We're going to be opened up with regularity.
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Had the pleasure of watching Enzo Fernandez against PSG. What a player. If Liverpool want a midfielder, he's your man.
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Klopp built Liverpool up from the rubble of the Rodgers era to the best team in the world in 2019. This was an organic build from the ground up. He had to wait 3-4 years before the project bloomed. Great coaching, fine recruitment, and huge personality and will.
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Henderson being made a squad player and upgraded will make or break Klopp going forward. That needs to start in January. It's one of many issues.
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We're going to continue to give Van Dijk two jobs. Centre back and Robertson's fireman. Solid plan. Let's run Konate/VVD into the ground. Big Ibou will be done before he's 28. Klopp is asking way too much of the pair.
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Rallying call by Alisson. He'd probably like to say more. I'd imagine Virgil would, too.
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The club has to build a squad to compete in 4 competitions. Can't continue to turn our nose up at the domestic cups. No Fa Cup since 06. Not good enough for Liverpool Football Club.
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Remember the gladiatorial intensity Mane brought to Liverpool. He never lost his will for the battle. Go and go again. Never injured. Klopp and his scouts have to identify a player of similar ilk going forward. Diaz looks a diminished force. We're getting nothing from the left
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Got to feel for Fab. Done two fellas jobs. Sometimes three on occasion. He's 29 going on 35. Kloppball has been taxing for the Brazilian. Wijnaldum has probably extended his career. Fab is done now. Henderson is finished. Elliott isn't a midfielder. Ox/Keita are off. What a mess
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The integration of a new 9 and way of playing. The effects of a long hard 2021-22 season. Psychologically. The lack of refreshing. All coming home to roost. I think we'll rally and compete for Top 4, but a season let to drift in relation to being champions. Not a good look.
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Imagine seeing a coach go close to winning a quadruple. His players playing in every club game imaginable. Then giving him a net spend of about 5-10m. Whilst your rivals plough 150-250m into their playing squads. Go fuck yourself.
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You can laugh at Chelsea. At least the talent pool is there for the next 4-5 years. When Boehly calms down. Potter can coach, develop, and shape a team into a cohesive unit. Liverpool are in serious trouble. Needs 250m thrown at it. Who is funding that. A mess.
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If I'm Van Dijk or Trent, I'm waiting to see the clubs ambition before committing. Van Dijk and Salah have 2-3 elite seasons left. These players are in their pomp or slightly past it, but still hugely influential. I'd be asking the club to show their hand.
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Btw. Transitional seasons for a club of Liverpool's current station is unacceptable. And riches. You won't see City fall off to any great degree. These are the standards. Refresh and replenish. Keep the hammer down. The stench of bare minimum continues to permeate
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Szobo. Could well be Liverpool's best midfield player since Gerrard. Immense.
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