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Just occurred to me that maybe Aventurine is acting again when he said to Jade he'd gamble his own life because...
He doesn't want the IPC to know that he's changed but still wants their trust in order to fool them and take them-
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The way that so many people think that Aventurine's surface level confidence means he actually is
When he's hiding how self loathing and guilty he always feels- due to being forced to create a new persona for himself and leave Kakavasha in the past- burying who he used to be :((
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Do people really forget that Penacony literally starts with Aventurine calling Sunday "the most handsome man in Penacony" but not Robin the most beautiful
Robin finding what Aventurine said "interesting"
Welt and Himeko exchanging a look lol
And then Robin calling March 7th cute
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Absolutely insane(and homophobic) that i see anyone saying Aventurine HAS TO BE str8/bi in order to carry on his bloodline
When canonically in Honkai Kevin and Dr Mei had a test tube baby (didnt sleep together to have the kid)
They think Honkai Star rail universe couldn't???
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Reminder that this is what the bottom of Aventurine and Dr Ratio's shoes look like
As Welt said~ flamboyant indeed
Ratio's looking like an owl is so cute. Aventurine's spade
Aventurine's shows probably cost a fortune but i love thay Ratio's are what you'd call "fancier" looking
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Down from the inside.
Therefore he has to act like he hasn't changed and is still the same exact Aventurine that they know (willing to gamble anything at anytime)
But he actually does care about his life now and is happy to be alive as he said
Maybe, right?
This is my theory!
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The homoerotic tension from final victor is so real it really is undeniably gay lol
Here's Camden saying that Aventurine was into Ratio having pointed a gun at him
(Allegra and Camden joked before that the Final Victor lc was them basically kissing thats how gay it is too)
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We know that Aventurine is extremely smart with his plans. He plans so meticulously and even though his plans rely on a gamble usually, he never loses!
He has to make sure noone is suspicious of him in the IPC. Even though he told them that he's having nightmares he is still-
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Lgbt ppl only shipping lgbt pairings due to having to live in a heteronormative world and wanting to relate/be represented
Is not comparable to
Str8 ppl who refuse to ship anything lgbt bc it makes them uncomfortable or they "cant see it(as romantic)" which is str8 up homophobia
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Aventurine is a genius in his own way. He's literally "Aventurine of Strategems"
And as we saw in 2.0-2.1, he's such a good actor he had Sunday and the family and even the entore audience playing the game fooled until "Aventurine" revealed that even Ratio's betrayal was an act
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Acting like himself.
Meeting Boothill and having time off from working for the IPC as a Stoneheart would be just the thing he needs in order to start coming ome up with the perfect plan to escape the shackles of the IPC and get his revenge on Oswaldo Schneider
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I feel like these four images need to be thrown at all of the people who mischaracterize Dr Ratio....
If at this point people STILL don't understand that Dr Ratio was acting and never "betrayed" Aventurine for real when it's directly said in the text then there is 0 hope for them
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Yea.. ive seen many people say that aven has to be with women bc "carry on his bloodline tho"
Its flat out homophobic and gross
Its a scifi world with super geniuses and immortality exists
And they just ignore that even in real life, two men or two women can have kids together...
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You cant call yourself an Aventurine fan or claim to care about his character at all if you hate Dr Veritas Ratio
Im not joking at all. Your gonna say you love Aventurine but hate the man that Aventurine trusts and feels happy to be around? Who he trusted with his past and plan?
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@callilysto
THESE LINES
ISTG THEY GET IGNORED BY SO MANY PEOPLE ITS INSANE
Its right here people! In the story
Like- come on!! Its flat out said! Its not implied! Its in the text!
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WAIT SO AVENTURINE IS SAVED BY OPAL'S FINAL VOTE
BUT IS HE REALLY BEING REMOVED FROM THE STONEHEARTS?
I remember someone saying that Aventurine was definitely going to get promoted like Jade promised she would help Topaz get promoted but i knew promotion wouldnt happen for Aven😭
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@callilysto
Fr 😭
All it takes is a little research to know what happened when they were bold enough to have two girls (bronseele) kiss
They literally had to remove that page by law
Sadly, they cant outright say "this character is a lesbian/gay"
They literally can't 😢
Thats why they code!
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@Pink_Rhodonite
Dr... Ratio!?
People really think him calling the self insert character an "idiot" and hating ignorance is equivalent to being a villain huh...
Literally what bad thing has he done in the main story at all?? Except be rude and blunt (which isnt even bad)
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Aventurine then calls Dr Ratio's bust handsome
Sparkle implies that Aventurine... did you know what...
In Aventurine's point of view Woolsey is a hunk of a man
Even outside of the game there's more like Robin dancing with only women in her trailer
Robin and Aventurine are gay fr
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Topaz and Aventurine acting like siblings REAL
So sick of people saying things like Jade sees Topaz as a kid (false literally nothing backs this up)
Or that Ratio and Aven act like family (literally nonsense)
But a man and woman just being in a scene together is "romantic"?💀nah
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@miamiamayaya
I love the way the eng vas vpiced this part so much too!!! They both sound so playful and soft🥺
But the JP of Aventurine saying "Ratioooo, i can hear you!" is stuck in my head forever
The way he says it is SO extremely playful and cute😭
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Repeat after me:
The IPC is not good, they are evil- read the lore, they colonize planets under the guise of helping them
Oswaldo Schneider is 1000% evil and the reason for many planets destructions. Qlipoth even refuses to gaze upon him
Aventurine has many reasons to hate IPC
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This man has so many levels of trauma
Constantly faking a smile and forcing himself to believe that he's ok
Forced to act so much that even he has trouble differentiating who the real him is- what is acting? What isn't acting?
Dr Ratio is right. He needs therapy BAD😭😭😭
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Aventurine and rainbows in official Honkai Star Rail content a thread🌈🏳️🌈🧵cause yk rainbows gay and stuff
1. Into the Yawning Chasm 2.1 promo art
2. Aventurine gacha splash art
3. Honkai Star Rail Concert animated trailer
Happy Pride month🏳️🌈💅
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We know Sparkle was trying to get on Aventurine's nerves make him break character but i cant believe they got away with what she's implying(the implications aren't just that he's gay but that he would "sell himself" like that is extremely dark and messed up knowing his backstory)
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Ratio lovers unite!!!!!!!!!!
Just wanted to share this silly screenshot I got of him during his trailer🫶 look at that face
he is SO silly
Dr Ratio dislikers DNI
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Surrogacy exists but even that aside, all it mentions here is that its Dr MEI and Kevin's genetic materials.
Easily in such a technologically advanced world would two men or two women be able to have a biological child based on their genetic material
Its a fantasy world!!!!
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clip of Allegra and Camden saying "are they kissing" (about Final Victor) and Camden replying "just about" and a dirty joke about Aventurine's line about Ratio "giving him a hand"
They both love Ratio and Aventurine so much as characters, its so fun and sweet
#Ratiorine
#Aventio
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////////////leaks
TopaJade nation how we feelin??
from what ive seen 2.3 confirms that Jadetopaz is NOT psuedo-incest and Jade did not know Topaz when she wasnt an adult
Topaz calls her beautiful!
Topaz calls multiple women beautiful
Aventurine calls multiple men handsome! but
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@sophkat7
I feel like people also completely ignore that unlike Topaz he didn't have a choice to join the IPC
Similar to Topaz he wanted to use his rise to power to help (the people who helped him)
But he did NOT have a choice
It was the gallows(di3)or lifetime servitude to the IPC for him
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@MossyJadeite
I couldnt agree more, both assuming he wants kids and acting like he HAS to is so gross
Its the same gross het nonsense thats shoved down everyones throats that you only are worthy of value if you pass on your bloodline (but even then only in a het way according to homophobes)
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it is SO telling how people are jumping on the Yuli/Yanqing ship and thinking shes an expy of some wife he loves so much soooo romantic (false info)
but are fighting super hard and spreading misinfo to hate on Topaz/Jade already
so telling.... (homophobia/heteronormavity)💀👎
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How ironic! Your using this as an excuse to hate on Jade/Topaz but ignore that your exact wording makes it out to seem like Aventurine and Topaz are siblings with Jade as their mom and yet you ship them together!
@_angeIstone
one more point to mention, CV using Jade’s voice in CN dub to call both Aventurine and Topaz “Children” . The full sentence is like “ pls support the children’ work” in the bank collab. Obviously, Jade regards them as Kids. It looks like a mother and her 2 kids
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Sometimes i think about the possibility of Dr Ratio talking in a rude and arrogant way being part of his defense mechanism to prevent himself from being idolized by so many people who only know him by his achievements
As a way to distance himself and make people like him less :(
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Yall ever think about the fact that Ratio is one of the few people who knows Aventurine's past likely because Aventurine trusted him enough to share it unlike Jade who knows it because she was a part of his trial hearing
And it seems like most IPC members dont know other than her
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Honkai: Star Rail's Annual Creator Competition 2024 "Multiverse Vistas" Winner Announcement 🏆
Come and check out the outstanding works of this year and read the judges' comments!
▼ Results Page✨
Thank you for another year of fantastical
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some of you didn't care about anti-roma racism until aventurine. and if you actually cared about us you would be mad at his whitewashing too bcz brown skinned romas are the majority yet our only rep is SEXUALIZED esmeralda and mcu's whitewashed wanda maximoff/scarlet witch.
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@boobytoesdays
Which character are you even talking about???Furiously bi????
That is NOT Aventurine at all. He never shows attraction to any female character, is referenced to Oscar Wilde Happy prince, and more
Firefly, Argenti, Kafka, Serval, Sampo, Trailblazer, are definitely furiously bi
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Aventurine's shoes seem to have a word on it? Does anyone have the ability to decipher what it is in hsr language? Im so curious
Is it luck or something like that?
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ironic that a fandom of a game where one major theme-something brought up often which signifies its importance, is
"Your actions have consequences, choose wisely and choose something you won't regret"
A lot of the fandom act like nothing they say or do affects anything or anyone
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Topaz and Jade really aren't as toxic as people claim they are. Topaz is a genius in her own right
She clearly is extremely fond and trusting of Jade, as someone who's in a higher position as her and as a person
She did NOT know her when she wasnt an adult.
She did not gr00m her
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Aventurine 🥺... didnt even get what he "wanted" in the end. The IPCS power/control and Topaz and Jade benefited most from his risky gamble
I knew there was no way they would promote him sadly.
Im so worried for his future
And also AEON WAR!?!?
more aeon lore more pls pls pls
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@aventiotwt
The misinfo really is insane. The way i still see people thinking that Dr Ratio was pointing a guŋ at Aventurine bc he wanted to k1ll him in Final Victor- read the description people😭 it wasnt even Dr Ratio's... it was Aventurine's
Dr Ratio was probably terrified of hurting him
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@Pink_Rhodonite
Ratio is never beating the adorable allegations because why is this so cute 😭
How can anyone dislike him🗣🗣🗣
He loves books, baths, rubber duckies, telling cringe math jokes and has an owl pattern on the bottom of his sandals
Veritas Ratio the man that you are🫶
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@resagini
It honestly baffles me how many people argue that the IPC is good actually... like... do they just...?? Not read any lore or dialog on screen? Aurum alley event? Aventurine's character story including 2.1? Random npcs? Gold and gears? Swarm Disaster? And SO many more like??
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Someone pointed out that Diamond may have made Aventurine another cornerstone using his power gifted to him by the Aeon of Preservation!!
So that means the IPC is set on "winning" and surviving the Aeon war and Diamond and Opal know they need all the help they can get
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iirc Topaz never calls any men handsome or beautiful
and Aventurine never compliments or calls any women beautiful
but they both "flirt" with members of their same gender🤨🏳️🌈??
gay lesbian coworker brotp real🫶
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The homophobia in fandom is insane
Can people just accept that Aventurine is gay coded and that Robin is lesbian coded and move on?😭
Let characters be gay! It means the world to lgbt fans.
Straight fans have billions of fictional straight or (less but still) bi characters
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I just saw the video (idk if anyone else has pointed this out yet I've been pretty inactive recently but if it has sorry!)
But this is definitely Ratio's silly statue poses
Aventurine and Dr Ratio match each others silly 1000%
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I ship
Topazsta
Robinpaz
Topazjade
Himepaz
(theyre all adults)
but
I enjoy her as her own character, completely outside of shipping too
I can easily see her as aroace, being happy and content single, or caring more about her job and helping others and animals more than romance!
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The IPC is evil and Aventurine isn't evil are two facts that can coexist and not contradict each other
Aventurine isn't in the IPC by choice, regardless!
The IPC can do good (like Topaz tries to do) but that will never erase all the bad they did and continue to do
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Aventurine's shackles are the IPC
He will never be truly free as long as they use him
He is still a sl4ve, the IPC are his "owners"
They even show this in the If I can Stop one heart from breaking music video-
Aventurine did not have a choice to join the IPC, he was forced to.
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Real Aventurine fans know his eyes arent just 4 colors but actually black purple pink purple purple blue blue blue blue black
(This post is a joke, i know each color is a different shade of purple blue and pink but also i love how many different colors Aventurine's eyes are💕)
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The IPC is the reason behind the loss of Aventurine's family and home planet.
Aventurine wanted revenge on them, as we see in the Egyhazo Aventurine case- he scammed them hard. Causing the IPC great losses
After being put on trial by the IPC, he had 2 choices
D1E or serve them
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@LesbianPonds
Let alone have children with one😭 why r homophobes so dum
Its a fantasy world, whos to say that in hsr universe he cant carry on his bloodline with a man???
They just hate the idea that hes gay
Its so homophobic and ignorant
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The Topaz/Jade puppy love is real yall
Topaz is so down bad lets be real
The part about her almost being swallowed by Jade's Abyss???? Topaz knowing Jade's abilities/teachings "inside and out"😏🏳️🌈💅
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@Ram_cakes
@xingsyue
It's this really weird phenomenon where ppl see gay men as "privileged" and feel they are "forced everywhere" when that is the opposite of reality
Just because theres some (very few lbh) gay male rep and couples, gay men are still targeted and oppressed in a majority of society
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Every time ive seen this happen its just an lgbt fan being frustrated and tired of everything in media being str8 so they cant deal with it anymore
And then str8 ppl claiming "im not homophobic i just dont shio anything lgbt" and ALWAYS turning out to be homophobes- example? Many
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The man who sees him as he is? Who Aventurine himself descibes as knowing him best and that theres noone better suited to describe his talents?
Yea no way you care about Aven then
read more about their relationship and dynamic here if you dont believe me🗣
People really be getting mad at this and calling it thinking too deeply about it or disagree
and nah i stand by this 100% and at least 300 other people do as well
Its not even saying you have to ship them together
but literally how can anyone HATE Ratio but claim they love Aven??
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You cant call yourself an Aventurine fan or claim to care about his character at all if you hate Dr Veritas Ratio
Im not joking at all. Your gonna say you love Aventurine but hate the man that Aventurine trusts and feels happy to be around? Who he trusted with his past and plan?
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Its just the same heteronormativity and homophobic rhetoric
Two men can have tons of references to romance movies like Aven and Ratio
Topaz blushing and smiling like we never saw before when she sees Jade and then Jade carresses her face as she calls her Jelena-chan
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@polysemyID
I see!! Wow, the focus of Opal at the end making it seem like his decision was the most important one makes me wonder iirc Opal knew what Aventurine "really wanted" back in his character story
I saw someone say its likely Diamond made a new aven stone with the power of Qlipoth!
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Allegra and Camdens friendship and love for their characters is so oure and sweet 🥹
I swear i had the clip of Allegra reacting to seeing the voiced final victor animation but i cant find it :(
Does anyone have her pulling for Aventurine stream saved or the link anywhere?
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@billdozer777
@honkaistarrail
Your voice acting for Owlbert is so fun and full of emotion! Always a blast to watch all the star rail trailers because of you!
HSR better make you a playable character because your voice acting talent is too good to not be in game!
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@timelyjade
Aventurine got a moment among the stars but no myriad celestia trailer... if Boothill doesnt get either amats or a mct im gonna cry fr :(((((
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Why do they look so good next to each other???😏 love how their poses are mirroring each other slightly
Aven clutching his hat to his chest while Sugi nonchalantly holds a glass of wine
Sugilite's design is AMAZING
Another man with earrings AND he's brown
We WIN so hard
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Doctor Ratio possibly being a secret Doctor of Chaos is such an interesting theory
Because the Doctors of Chaos' beliefs line up with his own completely when you really think about it
Maybe???
Need to know more about Dr Ratio so badly
Pls star rail please
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@MeganeSimp
Aventurine isn't even that much of a flirt. He isn't that flirty rlly. He does flirt with like two or three men like Sunday but that doesn't make him a playboy
He sees friendship as a transaction-uses flattery and gifts as his chips
He knows how to get what he needs for his plan!
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@okyxnus
They are so down bad for each other I love the ways they influence and positively affect each other
Their playful banter in 2.1 is peak and I wish we got to see their interaction while they're not in a stressful situation!
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@Desamayo
This is what makes Sunday the perfect villain for Penacony arc!!
He genuinely wants to do good, he wants everyone to be happy and experience paradise every day of their lives!
But he wants to do this no matter what, his goal is absolute.
Even March agrees when he asks his-
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@jingliubrainrot
@eliofly
Just going to point out that Dr Ratio belives that everyone deserves access to knowledge regardless of wealth/birth/race/etc
Being racist goes against the core belief of his character
Aventurine and Dr Ratio's acting to fool Sunday is not representative of their relationship
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@forestiens
@ajaxddls
Also so many people ignore the fact that after he feels he has insulted Aventurine while following Avens plan in that scene he still apologizes to him- he did not mean to offend
He doesn't genuinely think lowly of Aventurine's past, his race, or what he's been through at all
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Oh but "that cant be gay! its so platonic guys"
When then they immediately turn around and any scene with a man and woman in it is automatically romantic to them
When it's literally just them talking and standing near each other💀
"Gay rep isnt real unless it gets says outright"
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Big shout out and thank you to all the artists who do Aventurine's huge gigantic enormous huge gorgeous butt justice by making sure you draw it nice and big 🫶(and of course drawing Ratio's tiddies absolutely huge too)
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@ishipandfangirl
I know! That part of the post was just me being silly lol
I know Welt and Himeko werent giving a look because of Aventurine😂 (but bc of Robin!)
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EN translate
This thread is about my observation about relationship between Aven & Ratio & Sapphire
As u can see Aven is wearing many blue gems in his outfit
So I tried to compare their color with real gem and I guess it's a Blue Sapphire
& Ratio's gems have the same color too
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@hatogaia
Same!! Im obsessed with devs putting little details like this in
It may be small but it gives insight into a character and makes them even more unique!
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@MeganeSimp
His playboy persona is merely an act to hide himself and play his role as Aventurine
Keyword persona/act
He says himself that he has been acting for so long he doesn't know who the real him is anymore(at least thats what I'm pretty sure its implying here) he even 'fools' himself!
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@miamiamayaya
@Pink_Rhodonite
What are they even debating??😭😂 genuinely... can they even name one bad thing he's done? I doubt it
The misinformation is insane
Dr Ratio hate is so forced and fake
And often its because they hate Ratior1ne as a ship and how popular and loved it is :////
I cant with people...
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@boobytoesdays
@_vinylsigns
having a wife in a time where he was ARRESTED for being with men doesnt make him bi!
You keep ignoring everything that people are explaining to you on the history of oppression gay men have faced and why calling him bi is gay erasure
at this point your just trolling or delusional
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@timelyratiorine
I theorize that he's acting when he says that to try and fool the IPC!
I really hope that he wouldn't actually gamble his life anymore 🥹
I have so many thoughts on this that is too long to fit into a single reply so here!--
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Just occurred to me that maybe Aventurine is acting again when he said to Jade he'd gamble his own life because...
He doesn't want the IPC to know that he's changed but still wants their trust in order to fool them and take them-
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But a m/w not being confirmed romantic in ANY way is canon to these people?
The double standards and hypocrisy is insane
It's also ignorant to the oppresive laws that CN people face
They could make any m/f pair canon if they want to, so by their logic its not canon unless stated!
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@miamiamayaya
These ppl are so full of themselves and yet they don't even bother to get their facts right
Its the calling Oscar Wilde not gay because he was forced to have a wife (in a time where he was literally arrested for being gay) that seals the deal on this being one of the worst takes
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@calyxconcision
I think it's really cute that Aventurine has thicker lashes but no underlashes (i think its the thickest any hsr male has?😳) while Dr Ratio has elegant and beautiful longer lashes and undereyelashes!
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oomfs make sure you all block this racist who denied my roma moots and spreads misinfo
Its one thing to claim that your fave character isnt racist bc of wonky or bad writing but flat out refusing to listen to roma, blocking and silencing roma voices is being racist to REAL people
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I wasnt going to say anything but this person saying that Avn and Sun are toxic but not problematic??? Do they hear themselves?
All while refusing to listen to forestiens(trustworthy roma mutual)and flat out ignoring the replies that show what they're saying is wrong
This aint it
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@AraYuannn
Its so funny to have them ult one after another too
Dr Ratio: drops a giant pillar on enemy
Aventurine: puts enemy on a huge roulette wheel than drops huge coins on them
The funniest duo fr😂
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*pure and sweet
Also the countless doctor youre HUGEs 😂 Seele's VA Molly saying that the flirty and gay got them all the lightcone when they pulled it with Camden saying that line
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@resagini
RIGHT!! Exactly!
istg those people dont care about Aven at all they just get mad at how gay he is
I doubt they even know him as a character, gross homophobes comment on things they dont even know or care about just bc they heard a character is gay and they're angry about it 💀