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I hate IDW Sonic's constant use of 'meme faces'. Once or twice is fine enough - when you have a silly story in place of a serious one - but there's BEEN no 'silly' story for a long while. It comes across as nobody taking things seriously when I'm seeing faces like these:
IDW!Sonic is *such* a compassionate guy!
Look at him Telling Kit the truth, and only saying how 'he' was involved in it! What a compassionate person!
All the while Kit acts like a servant to Sonic!
So charitable, such *compassion*! Much wow!
@2Qwuik
Honestly? I'm not surprised. Iizuka wanting to make a game that he wants is better than meeting the demands of a faceless mob that constantly chokes itself with it's opinions.
Like, these would work FINE if the comic were just a bunch of silly adventures with no cohesion, like the Sonic Dash n' Spin manga, but then you get THESE scenes - where they try so hard to make you feel the emotions - and I can't help but feel it's mocking itself:
Like, if the comic WANTS to do memes, make a silly story that doesn't have the need to wring out emotions out of people. This CONSTANT need to add memes where it isn't necessary takes ME out of any story avaliable, and I'm blaming all the artists for it.
@ThatBoyJackaboy
Not really mad, I just find it hilarious that people aren't making fun of it when people made fun of 'True Dat', when Big Oof was around in the *early 2000's*.
The Sonic games NEVER blames the technology used to cause mass pollution, they blame the PEOPLE that use them. Unlike SatAM, which blames ALL tech on pollution
See Sonic CD and the Bad and Good Futures, and notice the useage of tech and how is exploitative while the other isn't.
This meme is so damn tiresome. It stopped being funny when it *started*.
People who like this meme, grow up. Classic Sonic is *still* Sonic, no matter how many people cry salty tears about it. There's no such thing as 'Santiago'.
While I do like 5D's in general, the whole 'Yusei can fight with his bare fists' kind of defeats the purpose of YiGiOh in general - which was to have a series where the protagonist didn't *need* to win using violence.
Gonna let y'all in on something:
She's not smiling here. Or in the panel after holding his hand.
This page gets thrown around but look at her face closely. Look at her mouth. Corners turned down. Her eyes aren't helping out either.
Did you know? Most fangames fall off the face of the Earth because people like *you* weaponize the fangames to 'get back at SEGA' for whatever made up bull you have in your head.
By weaponizing fangames, you cause fanmakers to not want to make games. :)
@Destructo_Dan
It’s not as “black and white”. Competency.
NOT ALL FANS are better than Sonic Team. Some are tho. All Sonic Team has is bigger budget, marketing, and reach.
But when a certain team can do something that Sonic Team couldn’t for over 20 years, you should really evaluate.
Tails didn't automatically poof out of existence when the scene of Chaos 0 wrapped up in Forces. Once he got hope back, he went on to help conquer the odds with the Resistance and help moviate the Avatar into destroying the illusionary sun.
There's a part of me that's just... so sick and tired to IDW Sonic - both of the comic *and* it's stans. I would *love* to not talk about it anymore - in fact, I think I would like to talk about it *never* - but the thing is, it has a *death grip* on the Sonic community.
This argument is flawed from the start because it assumes Flynn meant this Sonic to be separate from the games, when Flynn has stated on his Bumblekast that this Sonic is 'the SEGA standard', even though that's not the case.
Geeze, I can't believe Tangle in
#IDWSonic
issue 58 not only gets away with being an unapologetic asshole to Whisper's trauma, but the narrative LETS her get away with it! What kind of values are you giving kids, Flynn?
@McMistle
Fish in Unleashed actually give Sonic very low exp points, implying he doesn't like them. In comparison, junk food like chilli dogs and cakes give Sonic high exp when consumed, implying he loves them.
Sonic likes strawberry shortcake.
This is what would actually happen if Surge was in Sonic Forces. Considering she couldn't even beat Sonic one on one on her lonesome, let alone stealing Eggman's tech...
@whisperwoIf
'It's canon as long as it doesn't contradict anything' - Ian Flynn, telling people to ignore the truth of IDW Sonic not being canon to the Games.
Please, SEGA. DON'T Do this!
If you force alt media that CONTRADICTS the games at every opportunity to be canon, you'll end up losing people! Especially since the comic isn't surviving at all!
I genuinely hope IDW doesn’t just stay as references and just “canon” for sake of “yea it’s canon”.
Use stories from IDW in games, have those characters appear & keep the writing consistent PLZ
Don't look in the quote tweets or replies. OP's positive mood on Pontaff sshould be cherished in a sea of repetitive hate against a company that's done nothing but make games.
Pontaff are my favorite mainline Sonic writers thus far, their stories always made me laugh! ^-^
(Included Fire & Ice cuz they wrote only 3 mainline Sonic games as far I am aware..)
Tails had not been shown to fight any of Eggman's mechs or Chaos 4 on his own. Even with Gamma, there's three other distinct playthroughs that showcase no, Tails did NOT fight Gamma on his own either.
The only one in Adventure he was shown to fight on his own was Egg Walker.
Just mentioning it once, then never again is the comic's MO at this point. Or have we forgotten Sonic's aborted blame game on releasing Metal Sonic on Tails in Issue 50?
... Dude, look at how Sally and Bunnie are drawn in that time period, then look at Rouge and Zeena.
The latter two have Sonic proportions.
The former two are humans with furry masks for heads.
Sometimes, it's best to remind myself that the people who are 'fans' of IDW Sonic...
They're not really fans.
If they were, they would have bought the comics. Every single one of them.
But they don't. Only a small percentage buy the comics.
And it's why IDW isn't gonna last.
Watched the Super Mario Bros. Movie Trailer.
Why isn't Charles Martinet Mario?
Also LOLs, the whole 'new hero starting out with hypercompetent girl who eventually becomes hero's grilfriend' trope being thrown out in sheer force.
@r_unbound
At the end of the day, even the 'meta' (I HATE that term) era Sonic was still consistant, while IDW Sonic changes ideals depending on what Flynn thinks will work in the moment.
Interesting that Kishimoto hasn't heard of the 'Only Male Hedgehogs can Turn Super'...
Seems like that was ANOTHER lie made up by the person who has interests in being Sonic's writer...
IDW haters constantly hating the comics or anything related to Ian Flynn.
Fans suddenly bashing the Sonic movies in favor of Mario.
Endless complaints about every. single. thing.
You have no enjoyment for the franchise; why are you making yourself and others so miserable?
Oh, and yell at Sonic randomly because he 'trusted Eggman more than [Tails]'.
The Egg Walker is the only canonical evidence of Tails doing something on his lonesome without assistance.
Notice how Sonic's eyes are actually ON MODEL with how he looks naturally, in comparison to IDW!Silver who literally looks more like Steven Universe than SILVER THE HEDGEHOG.
The fact that every time a new comic's released, nobody I've seen talk about the comic has *ever* talked about the words chosen in it, or of it's use of Plots over Characters and constant need to push the Comic-Exclusive characters to the forefront.
Mario seems to get away with things that Sonic gets shat on over and over.
I'm not into hyper-realism (in fact, I think Mario games are too hyper-realistic with it's water at times), but come *on*. If you shit on Sonic for having ugly humans & too realistic graphics, be fair.
Digimon is naturally slow though, I thought Lilly Orchard would find that a positive... Considering they love Coffee-shop aus...
Then again, Lilly Orchard doesn't un derstand the media they watch at all...
Something i really appreciate about the vocal direction for Sonic Frontiers is it no longer feels like Roger is being told to do a Sonic voice. He just... IS Sonic.
Take a look at Issue 50's cover variants, in comparison to some of the earlier comics. What happened to 'Every comic is someone's first'? No, I'm *not* quoting Penders here. I'm quoting Stan Lee. You know, the guy that helped develop comics into a titanic industry.
Not in the mood to humor non-canon stuff, but the Sonic Twitter Takeover stuff is extremely Non-Canon.
IIRC, one Twitter Takeover proclaimed Sonic didn't like Strawberry Shortcake, when in Unleashed he gets a good EXP boost from it. He likes strawberry shortcakes.
@r_unbound
1) Evidence, please on the 'Sonic saves Eggman from Blaze'. Because IIRC the dude simply goes 'Blaze, you're a bit over the top' near the end of the game and still lets her beat Eggman.
Every other time since then, Tails has either:
Gotten help from one of his own tech.
Had Sonic and/or Knuckles fight with him along the way.
Done a thing on his own that amounted to nothing.
Cower at the Dark Gaia entities in Unleashed before Sonic arrived.
@Zhane_Star
How about '...' ?
We've been following Starline for 4 years now, and Sonic in the previous issue literally says that he'd 'forgive [Starline]' as well.
At least a minute bit of decorum would have been more impactful than reviving a dead meme for the sake of it.
This is wrong because if anything, it's MARIO saying Sonic's lines, while SONIC would be saying Mario's lines.
This just shows me that nobody plays either game series.
I am so glad more and more people are waking up to the idea of IDW Sonic not being the greatest thing since sliced bread, since it's always been mediocre at the start, it's only now showcasing that it refuses to improve after 4+ years.
Hey, maybe instead of being so passive aggressive about someone redoing your work, how about thanking them for the pointers, instead of backhanding them on their work and showing how insecure you are in your abilities? You got the job, act like a professional.
Lanolin is a horrific abusive leader, and has no interest in 'keeping the Peace'. If she did have interest in 'keeping the Peace', she wouldn't have stuck to Duo, and listened to both Whisper and Silver.
She also slapped a PTSD person to the ground, too.
Not only does this mischaracterize Sonic to just his idiotic IDW self, Mario here is mischaracterized as well.
My man has NOT killed his enemies, my dude. He even helps Bowser Jr. save his dad in the Bowser's Fury expansion of Super Mario 3D World.
For Kitsunami the Fennec Fox's redesign, I decided to lean into the cute factor a lot, and give it a more sinister purpose for him.
Poor guy can no longer ecpress his emotions now.
@DropProgram
It's like... They don't realize that the restrictions are MADE to keep people from effing up the IP too much.
SEGA's learnt from past mistakes, yet the Sonic Fandom is so entitled that they can't get past it.
The more I see people argue about IDW Sonic, the more I (but mostly Beevean and Drop) realize that people only seem to like IDW Sonic... For it's asthetics.
I mean, Surge only has 32 works in AO3, less if you remove all the fics where she's a minor character.
IDW Sonic isn't a serialized manga that *has* to continue without an end goal in sight. There's always only *one* story in it, and it's mostly either bleh, or something that came out of *bad fanfiction*. There's literally *no* in between to it.
@AppleSlipper
I like Pontaff because their Eggman is one of the best - he had deliberately used Sonic to propel him forward with the Zeti, had control of the Time Eater, and also nearly managed to have the world in his hands.
Their writing of Sonic and Tails' relationship was awesome, too.
And even the manga comparison falls flat when you consider that Manga at *least* has a *proposed* end-point. Comics these days? They seem to go on forever.
And I don't think that's helping the comic.
Stans of Sally Acorn's mostly naked design think that it's okay to have a busty woman run around in a skintight suit and have a cartoon animal head instead of a proper Sonic design that fits the series.
Because that's all Sally is to them - an 'sex appeal character'.
The fact that NOBODY in the Sonic Fandom on here seems to understand that having SEGA put restrictions on Shadow is a GOOD thing, shows me NONE OF YOU should *ever* hold an IP without crying about 'restrictions' before being KICKED OUT for not following the restrictions.
The difference between Shadow and these OCs is that Shadow was written to fit into the Sonic Universe. These guys are written to REPLACE characters or DEMEAN certain characters.
Also, their designs are so badly thought out, it's hilarious.
Sonic Prime and IDW Sonic need to stop pretending that they're 'part of the games' when they're REALLY not. By that extension, the writers of both Prime and IDW need to stop enforcing their beliefs onto the franchise that long since moved on from their mindsets.
When done well (Soma, Judai/Jaden Yuki), it's a neat aspect to an already great character. The problem comes with how EASY it is to eff up fully.
Sonic doesn't really have much of an 'evil' form, more a 'pissed off' form, while Satoshi/Ash just got possessed.
Wanted to do a redesign of Surge the Tenrec, mainly because I wanted to lean further into the punk aspect and get rid of the clutter. One prominent thing I wanted to get rid of was the baggy pants - they did nothing for her, and I wanted the sharp edges.
If it was games Sonic, Sonic would have NEVER put on the Phantom Rider suit. Because he wouldn't CARE if people thought he was being a villain.
Why hide your face if you don't care?
By targeting their family on instagram and other websites, the Sonic Fandom have gone too far.
The Sonic Fandom are basically doxxers, I don't CARE if you guys think it's 'in the right' to bring Zhane-star's family into this, you guys are MONSTERS. 2/2
@Heflito
@TheMirabilez
@Randomguy9991
@DropProgram
There isn't, actually. There's cut content where Eggman declared that he was immediately going to start up another scheme to Tails, but it was cut to keep the somber mood of Shadow dying.
@r_unbound
2) The knights had faces similar to the people Sonic knows of - Lancelot for Shadow, Gawain for Knuckles, and Percival for Blaze. Him 'disarming' them is actually him trying to *stop* them from commiting seppeku.
I've been saying for a long ass time that IDW Sonic was a horrible representation of Sonic, and no amount of 'this is for kids!' is going to change that.
Kids aren't buying the comic book, and it clearly shows with how little IDW is paying anyone.
Need I remind people that I got onto a certain Sprite Animator's shit list because I told them that the show's 'retro' scenes were poorly done and badly inserted to push runtime.
WHAT IS THIS??
HOW IS THIS OFFICIAL??
MADE FOR A ACTUAL SHOW??
IF THEY USED THE ADVANCE SPRITES FOR EGGMAN, WHY NOT FOR TAILS AND SONIC TOO??
AND WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THAT??
FINAL FANTASY SONIC X IS YEARS OLD AND LOOKS CENTURIES BETTER THAN THIS!!
An interesting character that COULD have worked, had the narrative of him being a 'sad and loney boy' not been contradicted by evidence of his parents loving him, and his human friends literally sticking by his side and his uncle, grandfather, and staff love him.
Crazy how both the Tailstube and TMOSTH Shadow are ass so either direction stinks.
Can the series please go back to being handled by Japanese writers working closely at Sonic Team.
@TheKevstermania
None. Three were retreads of their Adventure 1 stories but with less nuance, and SAGE would have been better had she been just part of the Cyberspace system and not Eggman's lacky.
Tails also 'stalks' Sonic. In fact, technically everyone in the Sonic universe has to 'stalk' Sonic to meet him.
He's literally supersonic in his running, guys. He literally can go anywhere by just running to it.
"Sonic likes Amy but is afraid to admit his feelings"
Amy is stalking Sonic and has physically assaulted him when he rejects her advances. He always pulls away from her hugs/kisses. If you liked someone would you pull away? Sonamy is a toxic ship
//drops mic
@curly_quills
'As long as there's no contradictions anywhere, we're good.' -Ian Flynn, saying that knowing that the comic contradict the games.
He said it himself. They aren't canon.
Can we please stop shipping the Scourge 2.0 AKA Surge with Amy, please? I absolutely don't want her to be near that gal, especially if she'll sleep with her like Scourge did with Bunnie.
@DJWarnerStage
@whom_guess
Dude literally compared the emptiness that is Bowser's Fury and said that it was 'better'.
At least there's no endless ocean with Frontiers!
99% of IDW Discourse is legitimizing people who attack others for their opinions on a blue hedgehog comic that was promised to be 'like the games', only to have that be a constant and awful lie.
He gets rightful criticism for his work, and people have been constantly twisting it to be the most awful shit in the world.
On top of that, Ian Flynn has a cult that never questions him.