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Ok, this is a fair question so I’m going to try to answer it; I’ve seen the same question about Jon, and it’s fair there as well. Why hate Jon and Sansa for S8, but not Dany? This will take some time, so bear with me.
@AquaLxxiii
@sansasthrrone
again explain why you hate season 8 sansa like whole entire character. but you love dany in season 8? and blame the writing for only her character
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I mean…that’s show Sansa. Who backstabbed the last Targaryen queen she met, after said Targaryen queen helped save her life and her people. She would not even TRY to befriend Helaena, she’d treat her like garbage and plot against her.
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Peter Dinklage was NOT right. The final season was atrocious. Dinklage claimed we are mad because the “pretty white people” didn’t “sail off into the sunset.” Which makes me think he didn’t even watch the end because his character and the (pretty white) Starks got a Disney ending
Peter Dinklage was right, fans are mad at the 8th season cuz her fav didnt end like their Magic Girl BOSS they wanted. I would add, if this was about the show callity people Will be mad at 5,6 and 7, becouse those season are Bad also.
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@regicida8
Yara Greyjoy negotiated her independence in a two minute conversation. Sansa had no diplomacy skills whatsoever,
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Two women who backstab and uphold patriarchy to drag down another woman for their own selfish interests; Two men who betray their former lover in a cowardly manner, and aren’t worth a damn. So true. (Except I love book! Jon and even like book! Sansa).
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@sheflingsit
A tyrant doesn’t put aside her own goals to help save the world. If Dany was a tyrant, she’d have killed Cersei first, THEN gone North. And she’d have Sansa killed. GTFOH.
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@WiCnet
@baughman_kerry
The first four seasons of GOT were unparalleled. S5 was a noticeable drop, but S6 rallied and was not as complex as 1-4 but still very decent. S7 was rushed and sloppy and S8 was a misogynistic slavery apologist dumpster fire. HotD is great so far, but not like S1 of GOT imo.
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Yikes. I love Peter Dinklage but this is an atrocious take. Did he not see the ending? Does he not know the heavily plot armored Starks were pretty white people? That their stance was very clearly “we hate foreigners?” Ew.
Peter Dinklage has some thoughts about that
#GameOfThrones
ending and the backlash from it.
"They wanted more, so they backlashed about that. They wanted the pretty white people to ride off into the sunset together. But the show subverts what you think."
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Dany should have stayed in Essos and let those ungrateful slobs die.
Sansa being ride or die for Northern Independence given how her family has been treated vs Dany not wanting to give up one third of her kingdom...seems like organic enough starting points for conflict to me
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Thinking about how Dany was sitting alone at the feast at Winterfell, her best friend had just died, and no one attempted to talk to her at all, and none of the Dothraki or Unsullied were invited inside. I can’t wrap my head around people who think the Starks were the good ones.
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@thecyansea
@regicida8
Having your brother hand you a crown after being voted in by a small group of friends and family does not require diplomatic skills.
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In the books Dany has been fighting slavery. She hasn’t set foot in Westeros.
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“She’s the egg hatcher”
The prophecy:
“When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.”
@westerosies
Like hell she is. She's the egg hatcher. Nothing more. She's fire proof because she had one job, hatch the damn eggs.
The Prince that was promised is Jon Snow aka Aegon Targaryen, 6th of his name and the true King of The Seven Kingdoms.
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I am going to assume you never read the books or have 0 reading comprehension. Book Alicent is a rotten selfish grown woman who tore the realm up to support patriarchy and Sansa is literally a sheltered child held prisoner. They are not comparable AT. ALL.
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@pollitodecolors
Show Sansa had the diplomacy skills of a bedbug infestation. BOOK Sansa, you’re absolutely right. SHOW Sansa? No.
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If you hate either of them I do not trust you.
everyone is allowed to hate characters, but there are some characters who just make me think you’re a red flag if you hate them
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Lmao Daenerys “had” her husband murder her brother. Viserys molested her, beat her, sold her into sexual slavery, and pressed a sword to her belly threatening to cut her baby out of her belly. Men who defend abusers, that was the audience D&D, Cogman and Sapochnik appeal to.
Daenerys had her husband murder her brother so she could be queen. Never trust a kinslayer.
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@DrunkScribe
They deserved far worse. HBO AND GRRM wanted more episodes and more seasons. But they were too busy getting high on the smell of their own farts and delving into slavery apologetics and celebrating intimate partner violence to care about quality.
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@Inderwtf
I hate show Sansa but she did not deserve what happened with Ramsay. No one deserves that.
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Jon literally REFUSED to unite the Seven Kingdoms and was not even able to unite the North, Glover LEFT. If it wasn't for Dany and her dragons and her NON Westerosi army, Jon and his 10k slobs would have been overrun and died. Also, it wasn't Jon’s music playing now, was it?
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So was Dany when Mirri murdered her baby. Dany antis and their hypocrisy.
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@danyzstarlight
The show runners sticking their gross thinly disguised fetishes into the show, in the hopes of making fans side with misogynists who are fighting to put a rapist on the throne is pathetic.
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@DiscussingFilm
Ew. That man just chilling with Tormund who slaughtered innocents yet he murdered Daenerys for the same; Jon hung a CHILD for what Jon himself did. If they don’t resurrect Dany, they can call die imo.
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Misogyny is your favorite thing, just say it. Anyone with critical thinking skills already knows.
@aIicentakgae
same. self righteous targaryen women with delusions of grandeur is my favorite thing.
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@RobbyWut
Before. Why save that ungrateful unwashed pack of slobs, then just let Cersei slaughter them?
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So women should just blindly follow men. Y’all are gross.
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@fablemaster3478
@sheflingsit
Cersei did. Glover, a Northern banner man, refused to fight the dead. Sansa’s behavior showed that she didn’t care about the army of the dead. Dany was the ONLY leader who immediately prioritized the army of the dead in the entire show.
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At this point when show Sansa stans demonstrate their internalized misogyny and love for violence against women, I’m not even mad, it’s just who they are. Vile, but typical of them.
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Its like comparing a bedbug infestation to a cockroach infestation. Both suck ass.
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@bestthrone
Daenerys. Without question. Dany is the only leader who IMMEDIATELY prioritized the army of the dead as soon as she saw them. She spent years smashing the slave trade. Annulments don’t work like that, and it’s meaningless because Jon abdicated.
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Dany is one of the cleanest characters in the entire story. Gtfoh
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I despise these lying slobs. “I like Dany she’s one of my favorites” meanwhile they spit this trash. How about just stfu and stick to your nasty faves.
@stalliondany
but i like daenerys? she's among my favourites. and i don't agree with anyone calling her neither a slaver (me saying jorah is one doesn't mean she is, nor was that my implication) or hitler what the fuck? you're putting words in my mouth once again.
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@POTUS
Lmao. You let unemployment expire, pushing millions into poverty, so that people have to work three minimum wage jobs to make a fraction of what they made pre-pandemic when jobs were more available. That’s not “job creation.”
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@westerosies
One of two things: either take the city immediately and name Olenna my Hand, or turn right around and go back to Essos and let Westeros fall to Cersei or the NK.
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Sansa stans making jokes about a woman being murdered, like intimate partner violence/violence against women are so funny to them, yet if you point out that Sansa was a selfish backstabber they cry about misogyny. The hypocrisy is on a whole other level with them.
I love ships with a height difference sm, like for example sansa stark is 5'9" and daenerys targaryen is six feet under
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So what you’re saying is that ShowSansa and Alicent are “good” because they accepted the patriarchy and Daenerys and Rhaenyra are “bad” because they fought it. Just say you’re a misogynist. We already know.
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@thecyansea
@regicida8
Ser Jorah was dead when Dany took KL. Show Sansa’s “methods” are the same as Walder Frey’s. She’s vile and unintelligent.
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@summerforever21
I’m honestly not sure. He had said he only read the first one, but he may have read more since then.
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The stupidity of this scene, the toxicity of a man crediting another man with a woman’s achievement and it never being called out, in fact the woman being framed as “going mad”, the gaslighting and sexism. D&D suck.
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@PoissSamuel
@WiCnet
We aren’t slavery apologists and we aren’t hypocrites, so there’s that. Fighting slavery and helping to save the world seems wholesome to us. Guess it’s about values.
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Rhaenyra was never racist, nukes did not exist in the world of ASOIAF and you clearly just make sh— up.
@craudio_new
@tungfcvbjcx
@milsshjz
Rhaenyra was racist to nettles, Daenerys nuked kings landing, and daemon groomed 3 underage girls
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Jon barely united his own people. He says himself to Davos that he has 10k men. Dany had over 100k. GTFOH.
@SterlingClair2
@AquaLxxiii
@KWellick
😂😂😂 RIGHT. Jon is literally the TPTWP (ice & fire). Daenerys wasn’t capable of uniting the forces that’s fought the army of the dead the way Jon did. She was just fire. As Melisandre said, she just had a role to play LMAO
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Showsa stans thinking Missandei’s loyalty and assertiveness is “passive aggressive” is disgusting to me.
killing a wight to save missendei even after missendei made passive aggressive remarks towards her
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Imagine thinking anything could be worse than slavery apologetics. This fandom gets more disgusting every day,
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@realDonaldTrump
We are highly taxed. And yet you don’t want to approve a Stimulus Bill that would have saved Americans from financial ruin. Fact is, win or lose, you will be remembered by history. Do you want to be remembered as the man who let America fall into ruin?
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See, this is the kind of twisted mindset of complicity that Neimoller’s First They Came was about. D&D tried to bastardize it with Tyrion’s loathsome “First she came for the slavers” trash, but the prose always was and always will be about complicity in the face of oppression.
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I seem to remember her making an oath to Jon under the Heart Tree, and breaking it the same day. But ok.
Sansa never made any promises to Daenerys and was always vocal about wanting independence for the North, Dany was the one who felt entitled to a kingdom she knew nothing about and to the unwavering loyalty of its people she had never laid eyes on
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She was born on Dragonstone, a place of salt and smoke, then reborn on a pyre. She was forced into a position of having to kill her spouse, then woke dragons from stone under a bleeding star. Looks like YOU choose to believe she’s NOT TPTWP because she’s a woman.
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@GameOfThrones
You destroyed her character and with it, destroyed the entire story. I’m glad you FINALLY shared a video of her after making one of all these others. But that deeply horrible “first she came for the slavers” bs can never be forgiven or forgotten.
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@WiCnet
Clearly he would. Jon told Dany she was his queen. He kissed her, then slid a knife into her while kissing her. It’s the single most cowardly thing anyone did in the story. Stop pretending he wouldn’t.
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@GameOfThrones
She was the best, most original and interesting character you had. Subverted the “dragon lady” trope and had her smashing the slave trade and helping to save the world. Then you ruined her with some cliche trash, ruining all the other characters to do it and the story too.
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@cjdye20
@thronesfacts
No she didn’t. Jon executed her for it in a cowardly and sleazy manner I might add, even though Jon was bffs with Tormund after he and his friends slaughtered innocents in Olly’s village and Mole Town. Gtfoh.
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It’s all about intimate partner violence against women. Ignore the ACTUAL prophecy, it’s all about murdering a woman. Baelish is Azor Ahai too obviously. All of ASOIAF is just “kill women”. This fandom is disgusting.
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Cersei was a child bride too, and was abused by her drunk slob husband. Cersei loved her children and you’ve got some nerve talking about Cersei’s “inbred” children when Alicent made her sweet daughter marry her rapist son. Never mention Cersei again.
@realmsmisery
not really! alicent was a childbride forced into motherhood and she loved her children the best way she could despite never wanting to have them. cersei chose to have inbreed bastards with her brother and still was a shitty mother to them
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The great tragedy of this fandom is that so many fans possess the intellect of a toenail fungus and spit idiocy like this.
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So…after they destroyed his character and made this courageous hero into a spineless gutless coward who uses women then murders them while kissing them, plans battles like Leroy Jenkins, and that’s what they want to write? They slaughtered this cow and now they want to milk it.
The spinoff series based around Jon Snow would take place after the events of “Game of Thrones.”
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It’s a bit of a mask off moment to say “I hope that girl who’s fighting slavery doesn’t win”. She’s not even in Westeros yet. She’s fighting SLAVERY. There’s no hoping she loses and still seeming like a decent human being.
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So funny how Sansa acting like a snot rag because of Dany’s father is totes ok, meanwhile Sansa’s father supported a child murdering king who never punished the murder of Rhaegar’s children and had to be lied to about Jon’s parents or he’d straight up murder a baby. Gtfoh.
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Daenerys Targaryen always
enough ships. tell me your favorite character, the one you unconditionally love above all others and will defend to death. just thinking of them makes you emotional and they’re your number one.
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@fir3andbl00d
Ok, but Daemon knows how to ride his, and genuinely bonded with his. Jon, not so much.
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I knew this damn clip was going to bring out these misogynistic Jon stans with their “but but but his mommy and daddy! And he united the realm!” Even tho he actively PREVENTED Dany from uniting the realm. Even tho the prophecy says the PTWP will wake dragons from stone. 🤡
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She probably should have gone back to Essos and let Westeros die.
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@thecyansea
@regicida8
You think Dany was lucky that she was sold into sexual slavery? That’s disgusting.
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The thing is, Alicent is also an entitled rich brat. She was born into a wealthy powerful family, then she pushed to steal the birthright from her stepdaughter who was the first born and chosen heir, to install a literal r-pist on the throne. She’s a hypocrite AND entitled brat.
@malewifealtair
@MausMellow
You're not wrong but that's exactly why I root for her. She's so real. She's a total hypocrite and it eats her up inside. But she's not about to uproot the patriarchy, so all she can do is fight to protect her family while wallowing in guilt. Better than an entitled rich brat imo
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@juicycapoochie
@thronesfacts
He killed her in a grotesquely cowardly manner and he was sure ok with mass murder of innocents when Tormund and his friends did it at Mole Town and Olly’s village.
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@westerosies
People are so angry about this. Did they not know Dany was a dreamer? Did they think Helaena was the only one in the Targaryen family? And Dany is a dreamer in the books too, not just the show. If pointing out canon gets them this angry, they should seek therapy.
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@Travis_SF0
When did Dany threaten to kill the Starks? Let’s stick to the show and/or books, not something you made up in your head.
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I find that Sansa and Alicent Stans tend to be misogynistic. They constantly need to tear down Targaryen women to prop their favorites up, make snide comments about them being “masculine” because only tradfem is feminine. They defend slavers and rapists. It’s vile.
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The “Notorious blood purists” who have married into many different families, so much so that it’s often argued Dany has very little Valyrian blood and yet the Starks rarely ever marry outside the North. Antis are always such hypocrites and ignorant too.
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@brownandbella
So you think women owe their abusers tears. He beat her, molested her, sold her into sexual slavery and threatened to murder her and her child. Wtf is wrong with you? And Sansa smiled as Ramsay was being devoured by dogs. Is she “mad” too or are you a hypocrite?
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“Most Targaryens” and meanwhile I can count them on one hand, vs hundreds that didn’t “go mad”. There’s literally nothing in those books to suggest that. This fandom is full of slavery apologists with ignorant and vile attitudes toward mental illness.
@ohhyouuarenanaa
girl it is not that serious. daenerys is no doubt gonna go mad in the books as most targaryens do, i promise you that wasn't devised out of thin air, even if the execution was shit. but mkay, wish i was as delusional as some of yall 🩷
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The hate that greens have for gay people and adopted children is one of the vilest things to come out of this fandom, other than the slavery apologetics of Dany antis.
Great take that sums up all the reasons why I was supporting the greens from the start And a great reminder how almost all those things haven't been mentioned since ep 7 ....
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Yeah, Dany should have let Jon die. Also, listening to Tyrion ruined Dany’s life. wtf kind of half wit compares Aegon the rapist to Daenerys anyway?
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@TheFilmUpdates
“The Targaryens are about as crazy as they get”? Just trying to kill whatever bit of interest anyone has after that vile final season, eh?
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@SaraHor57495371
I understand that the show version could not even behave civilly toward a Targaryen queen who came to help her, she’s not going to be besties with Helaena.
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No. Joff is a psycho and tommen is a child, and that's Dany’s throne, period. We support team black because we aren't misogynists who think a rapist makes for a good king. Just stan your garbage team green and stfu about Daenerys.
daenerys stans be like “joffrey and tommen don’t deserve the throne because they’re bastards!!” and in the meantime they support team black💀
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@Darth0Kairos
@fablemaster3478
@sheflingsit
No, actually. He did not manage to convince her. He went on a deeply idiotic wight hunt and Dany came to save that pack of idiots. As soon as she saw they were real, she pledged her forces.
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It's so weird that I say ShowSansa would not befriend Helaena, then I get comments that are trying to argue that Sansa would not befriend a Targaryen. Like, do y’all not know Helaena is a silver haired Targaryen queen who rides a dragon?
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I hope you mean book Jon. I can’t imagine Daemon putting a knife in Rhaenyra while kissing her. That was vile. Book Jon though, 100%.
NOW WE ALL KNOW
where is JON SNOW got his attitude from
Daemon Fucking Targaryen
#HouseOfDragon
#HOTD
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@gaemonglorious
Daenerys. When people say they hate her it’s always just a matter of time before they start defending slavery, spitting misogyny, showing blatant hypocrisy, or all of the above.
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“Killed Varys for no reason.” Meanwhile he was trying to poison her. Something is very wrong with people like this.
@heelygol
@evermoredany
@jaxajueny
@BloodOfMadara
Exactly when she killed Varys for no reason aswell I just knew what was going to happen. She also got jealous of Jon snow as soon as she realised he was a targeryan and had a better claim to the throne 🤷🏾♂️
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@TheFilmUpdates
And it broke records for absolute worst finale of all time, ruining what had once been a truly phenomenal show.
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That would be vile, and I would be forced to boycott Kit since he chose his own writers. Jon murdered his mother and never mourned his brother. It would be absolutely disgusting for Drogon to get anywhere near Jon except to kill him for stabbing Dany while kissing her. Coward.
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This you? I dont gaf what you hate. Were you one of the ones who “knew Dany was mad” because of the “poor innocent slavers, too? Gtfoh
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I mean the fact that trash bag was hoping to turn everyone to Team Green is evidence of that. No misogynist would ever even consider a woman to be heroic, even if she fulfilled the prophecy. He can rot in hell right along with D&D.
Ryan Condal says showing Daenerys in Daemon’s vision doesn't confirm she is The Prince That Was Promised:
#HouseOfTheDragon
“Remember that Game of Thrones, A Song of Ice and Fire, House of the Dragon in many ways, are warnings about the perils of power and people in power and
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@thronesfacts
Jon sure was ok with the mass slaughter of innocents when Tormund and his friends killed everyone at Olly’s village and Mole Town, and the way he killed her was slimy and cowardly. The final season was trash.
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@westerosies
Then the show will be garbage, just watching a man who murdered the woman who saved his a$$ and his vile self forgiveness of an irredeemable act. 🤮
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Stark Stans playing trauma Olympics again, and still wrong. Any Unsullied soldier suffered more than the Starks did.
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The misogyny is so thick here. She went a long time without Jorah to guide her. Why are men like this?
So I finished Game of Thrones and surprise surprise, the over the top season 8 hate was complete bullshit!
Danny giving into her impulsive side without the guidance of Jorah was completely believable…
Damn what a journey!
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@thronesfacts
Those of us who aren’t pro-slaver and possess critical thinking skills will not judge such a fierce amazing character because two incompetent slaver sympathizer misogynists cared more about bizarre twists and CGI mass destruction than solid storytelling.
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Drogon was already ridden by a Targaryen who was NOT a sniveling coward who stabs people while kissing them.
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Ew. That man just chilling with Tormund who slaughtered innocents yet he murdered Daenerys for the same; Jon hung a CHILD for what Jon himself did. If they don’t resurrect Dany, they can call die imo.
A ‘GAME OF THRONES’ sequel series is in the works.
The series will have Kit Harington reprise his role as Jon Snow.
(Source: )
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He did not unite the kingdoms. He could barely unite his own kingdom, and the rest of the kingdoms sat out the “long” night. GTFOH.
@QuietRevolt22
@Rothmus
He put all the pieces in place united the kingdoms, so yeah, he didn't stab the creep but he set up his demise. Thats fulfills it for me.
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