So apparently being a sex-repulsed ace is lesbiphobia now? I was trying to explain why the vitriol against fujos not writing mlm is unwarranted but this just reinforces the experience of flf spaces being exclus even in understanding other queer ppl, no wonder ppl stay away from u
@murashky
Hi sorry to inform you that the person who founded a03 is Naomi Novik, known as astolat, a known thorki and w incest shipper. The site was created because fanfiction .net and other sites began to censor fanfic. If you want a “clean” non-proship fanfic site, you can go there.
@skyebatungbakal
lol this happened to me just a little bit ago and this is the quieter version. I’m getting dogpiled about it on another thread
If they eat their own artists and writers then I guess they can’t help but bite others heads off including other queers
@murashky
Your comment is addressed to other fic authors which is why it was taken down. If you’re not happy with proshippers, fanfiction .net, wattpad, amino are other places you can go.
A03 was made by proship. Others can use it too, but it was made for proship.
My experience might be unique but my point was that everyone has their own reason for preferring mlm and it’s not your job to judge them for it. But if you want to morally judge so bad, then don’t be surprised if people don’t want to be near you or your content 🤷🏻♀️
Like why are lesbians allowed to hate men so viscerally and yet I, a woman who is sex repulsed irl, am not allowed to avoid seeing media that accidentally triggers me because I am a woman that Does Not Want Romance or Sex, without being called misogynistic or lesbiphobic?
Anyway. Yeah ‘personal experiences don’t matter’ according to flf mains so that tracks sadly. Can’t even be nice and try to explain without being called misogynist and lesbiphobic as if les exclus aren’t biphobic everyday
@NAFEDUDE
The correlation that people are drawing here is that one of the people who spread Ang’s callouts and helped doxx them is Ang’s REAL LIFE rapist. Since you sexually assaulted someone by your own admission, it tracks that you would side with a rapist.
@parabutdiffrnt
TL;DR proship has always been a default state, until anti-(specific ships) made entire accounts to shit on people’s ships for various reasons. Proship people create for their own communities. Antis barge in to voice their disgust. Y’all are the ones commenting on stuff you hate
@chaathon
People think my being triggered by consuming wlw is bc I hate lesbians and women, when the truth is I get weirded out with romance and smut where I can relate even remotely to myself (as I am a woman)
It means I have trouble also with het stuff sometimes and fem mc in otomes
I see antis crapping about demoncest again so let’s remind them that these are real cards and canon moments and the devs made a blanket statement in OG game using Levi that problematic content is still worth staying for
Every time I see someone unironically use “proshit” or “proshitter” I’m like:
Why yes I absolutely advocate for shitting, shitting is very healthy for the body. You must be like this because you’re antishit. Your constipation is why you’re like this. You’d feel better if you shit
@parabutdiffrnt
No, I’m answering your question about why antis dni is “okay” as you said previously. Proship create in their own space and antis are the ones inviting with negative comments and harassment 9 times out of 10. It’s only more recently that proship ppl are speaking up about it.
#demoncest
25 having sugard
@ddy
dynamic.
Mammon always needs money.
With Asmo having multiple businesses and professions, he often has a lot.
“Come onnnn! Whaddaya want me to do? Can’t ya just GIVE me some?”
“Oh hon, it’s ME we’re talking about here. I only have one price…~”
I have been called the f slur and have also been accused of being superstraight by lesbians today so that’s lovely. You’re not exactly helping your cause as to why people don’t like associating with you and creating wlw content. That’s all I gotta say. 🤷🏻♀️
@NAFEDUDE
Both you and Ang’s rapist are contributing to Ang’s harassment over FICTIONAL ART AND DRAWINGS while you are both minimizing the REAL LIFE shit you both did. Sorry you can’t put two and two together
#demoncest
15
Asmo is a relentless tease.
A lingerie pic sent during a meeting with Diavolo. A stray rose petal sitting innocently in places Lucifer would see it. A little extra sway of his hips as he turned to saunter off.
Chip, chip away.
Lucifer’s patience isn’t infinite.
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This is my stance in a nutshell for those wondering. I’m aegosexual, which is under the ace umbrella, which means if a character is too much like “me” that’s when I nope out. I’m a woman so unfortunately this affects my ability to consume flf or even het pairings sometimes.
Yeah I definitely have a thing for loyal, protective, submissive big muscular dudes willingly devoting their mind and body to their smaller partner 🥵
Particularly when the smaller partner has more power (authority status, hypnosis or mind control)
Petition for changing
#demoncest
to some other name because that was the name that the antis forced on us and we accepted it… even though it says in the original game AND nightbringer that they’re not brothers/are only “brothers” cuz the Demon King said so.
@EsmeMarion
Dni works both ways btw.
It seems you don’t understand what I mean when I say that and that’s ok. But it’s presumptuous to want to have clean fiction on a site like a03 that was literally created in response to ffn and wattpad who severely cleaned up their rules. It’s our space
This is my stance in a nutshell for those wondering. I’m aegosexual, which is under the ace umbrella, which means if a character is too much like “me” that’s when I nope out. I’m a woman so unfortunately this affects my ability to consume flf or even het pairings sometimes.
@Megutron_
I don’t dislike women, I dislike the subconscious putting-myself-in-the-shoes-of-romance-or-smut-involving-women because I am a sexually and romantically repulsed woman irl. This applies to het pairings as well sometimes if the character is too much like “myself”
For those trying to find the reply that I got dog piled for, sorry you’ll have to dig for it because I tried to bury it with fanart rts, cause I didn’t wanna see it anymore
Every time I see someone unironically use “proshit” or “proshitter” I’m like:
Why yes I absolutely advocate for shitting, shitting is very healthy for the body. You must be like this because you’re antishit. Your constipation is why you’re like this. You’d feel better if you shit
#demoncest
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Asmo would be happy to cockwarm Luci while he (Asmo) is wearing a beauty mask and waiting.
Whenever Lucifer gets particularly frustrated with his work, Asmo soothes him by moving a little.
Patience is a virtue.
#demoncest
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Asmo is streaming on his OnlyFangs account… usually he brings his biggest patron donor from the last stream to be toyed with and played with on this stream…
But today’s guest is wearing a mask. He’s hunched and seems super nervous, wringing his hands together.
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@Megutron_
I don’t dislike women, I dislike the subconscious putting-myself-in-the-shoes-of-romance-or-smut-involving-women because I am a sexually and romantically repulsed woman irl. This applies to het pairings as well sometimes if the character is too much like “myself”
@murashky
Hi sorry to inform you that the person who founded a03 is Naomi Novik, known as astolat, a known thorki and w incest shipper. The site was created because fanfiction .net and other sites began to censor fanfic. If you want a “clean” non-proship fanfic site, you can go there.
@parabutdiffrnt
Go back to fanfiction .net, amino, or wattpad and stop supporting a03 by posting and reading if you dislike it so much.
I suppose you haven’t read the Neil gaiman article I sent you about anti censorship.
Dear
#demoncest
antis:
We don’t actually give a shit that you don’t like what we like, that’s your right. What we are pissed off about is that Naido is NOT a proship/dc liker, and just has friends who are. They did not deserve to get kicked off the zine solely bc of association.
@4th3st4rs
Because a fanfic is fiction. But OP’s note is directed to the authors, and not any fictional characters. I don’t like those fics either but putting down other authors is, well, you see the result.
I just really like the thought that in the same way humans supposedly find sinful debauchery in physical intimacy, that demons can find divinity instead. If they have enough passion for each other then that loving and worshipful coupling even though “vanilla” is just as taboo
If Leviathan sleeps in his coffin and also uses it to summon tentacles (his basic attack in selfie card) and his main kink is breathplay, do you think he ever summons tentacles while he’s inside the coffin to choke him and fuck him? 🥵
#whatinhellisbad
@4th3st4rs
Of course it’s weird, you’re assuming I don’t think so either. But a site that was explicitly created to be anti-censorship will take down censorship-supporting comments. It’s as simple as that.
@murashky
Hi sorry to inform you that the person who founded a03 is Naomi Novik, known as astolat, a known thorki and w incest shipper. The site was created because fanfiction .net and other sites began to censor fanfic. If you want a “clean” non-proship fanfic site, you can go there.
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#demoncest
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Asmo intentionally likes to remember all of his slutty escapades with Lucifer and linger while the latter is stuck at work, or in a student council meeting, or elsewhere where he must keep his composure. He loves to tease this way for days or even weeks on end,
I feel like ppl wil get mad at me for this but
*toxifies their relationship*
Insecure traumatized god complex Laurent finds catharsis in abusing Damen but then breaks down and always feels guilty after
Damen is convinced his submission+ love will fix Laurent so he just takes it
Hence, antis are the ones telling on themselves when they get mad that we ship the HoL demons… when certain hypocrites ship SimeonxSatan and SimeonXBeel as if it’s not the same thing
@parabutdiffrnt
By reading a fanfic, you are the one who consented to seeing the content. That’s what tags are for. If you read tags of things that will harm you on a daily basis then k would consider that self harm on the reader’s part, not the fault of the writer.
@chaathon
I think I’m an unusual example as an aego but I’m positive there are other valid reasons people prefer mlm to wlw that are not actually misogyny. Like exploring their queerness for example
@lan_xiulan
@Daily_WHB
Before the game came out, the devs made graphics introducing the 5 kings who actually have designs so far (Satan, Mammon , Levi, Beel, and Lucifer.) I can dm links if you like?
@LettermanSause
@purity_culture
Part of the issue is that I’m not only an ace woman, I’m specifically aego, which people are not as familiar with, so they just think I hate women with extra steps??? At least according to the other replies hhhhh
Hopefully this explains my stance
This is my stance in a nutshell for those wondering. I’m aegosexual, which is under the ace umbrella, which means if a character is too much like “me” that’s when I nope out. I’m a woman so unfortunately this affects my ability to consume flf or even het pairings sometimes.
@sweetflex13
Letting women write or read what they like is not misogyny!
I would argue trying to control women’s writing and hating fellow women is misogyny, which OP is doing.
Some people have their own reasons for liking mlm and just bc they like men doesn’t mean they see women as inferior!
@bbCupidReading
It addresses very heavy topics and makes you believe that the hatred and disgust between the characters is so real that there’s no possible way they could ever fall in love—and they they do, and the reader falls in love with each character too. It addresses emotional healing,+
I just realized there’s a fucking typo and it’s supposed to be “ not writing flf”
But it seems people got my meaning anyway, because the whole discourse is happening right now so thanks
@parabutdiffrnt
If you think fictional characters are real children, I think you’re the one who needs help. I don’t like lolisho so I avoid it mostly but I don’t have a right to control what people create and neither do you.
If it disgusts you so much then leave proship spaces.
I’m SOBBING IN LAUGHTER I just saw SS of a prominent
#demoncest
anti post more ships with Simeon and the bros???? As if that’s not demoncest???????? You’re one of us you idiot
@parabutdiffrnt
Oh we enjoy ourselves. Sounds like you don’t know that many proship ppl or have just encountered a lot of the discourse heavy ones
Tbh today is the first day I’ve interacted with an anti for over ten minutes, in like… 6 months minimum but prolly longer than that
Idk I just really like 145
#demoncest
threesome ok
Each pair has a unique dynamic, and I can see Asmo trying to unite his 15 and 45 relationships in one big erotic orgy lol. Lucifer playing it cool at first to make Asmo happy, Satan in FULL BLUSHY DENIAL, both soon come to terms
Oh dear I am being perceived
Hi new followers, I mostly retweet BL things. Captive Prince is my shiny new hyperfixation, though I like ObeyMe and a few other fandoms.
Fictional freaks welcome
@MiniOrchid1
I’m very sorry you had to go through this as well. It’s frustrating when other people try to act like they know us better than ourselves and try to put labels on us 🫂
I always laugh when I remember that Satan and Mammon were the ones who made the Lucifer riding the unicorn emoji/sticker (and the Princess Dia with dress input from Asmo)
Satan made the sticker,
And Satan’s animal symbol is the unicorn…
And Lucifer is RIDING it…
#demoncest
@pazzypanda
Hi
You can easily vet this by googling “a03 Naomi Novik”
A03 was made by proship and for proship. Others can use it but we’re the reason it exists.
@murashky
Hi sorry to inform you that the person who founded a03 is Naomi Novik, known as astolat, a known thorki and w incest shipper. The site was created because fanfiction .net and other sites began to censor fanfic. If you want a “clean” non-proship fanfic site, you can go there.
@parabutdiffrnt
Wow, I feel really bad for you. /gen
I’m guessing you didn’t have that much attention as a kid that you get a thrill about these things.
@parabutdiffrnt
Have you considered that there is such thing called catharsis and that having an outlet through fiction or art is highly recommended by therapists? Nobody is asking you to read them
Huge respect for the amount and frequency of hornyposting for our boys on TL, I cannot catch up with you guys so I will just feast and enjoy 🍽️
Work has sapped my remaining brain cells
I love you all
Lamen hot
Seth hot
LuciAsmo hot
DiaBarb hot
Now back to work
I've only watched akidearest like, once so I don't really care for her much, but honestly I hope OM goes through with whatever promo or collab they're doing with her cuz then we can flush out some of the antis from the fandom.
OKAY GUYS THIS WILL BE MY READING THREAD FOR
#darkheir
#darkheirspoilers
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Sorry to make you scroll, just open the thread already
Also we get pissed when you think we like incest irl, what the fuck is that mindset.
We just think demons don’t have human morals, because that’s what demons are, the epitome of evil. So they’re not limited to our morals.
OKAY BUT ACTUALLY I’m such a big fan of loyal bottom Damen. He’s already so needy, he would beg to please please please have his beloved Laurent stick it in him so he can forget about his unprocessed trauma during a night of euphoria
When are people going to remember that a03 is founded by an incest shipper
If they want clean sites without proship they can go back to fanfiction .net or wattpad where they belong
TW mind control, dubcon suicide (murder) attempt, abuse
Laurent really hated getting his hands dirty.
From the moment he laid eyes on his slave, he had known it was him. The Princekiller, Damianos.
Ensnaring him with his blue eyed gaze had been so easy that it was laughable.+
@parabutdiffrnt
Understandable, but you’re still replying?
I suppose it makes sense that you’ll talk out of your ass about something you don’t understand and then claim you don’t care when confronted
Damen has been whipped bloody and is dragging himself towards Laurent who is sobbing in the corner in his self-hatred
Wanting to comfort him even with the sting of his own cuts against the air.