There are currently multiple heated discussions on this platform in which anonymous weirdos debate whether or not I should be allowed to be a member of the Church.
What a waste of time.
You’re stuck with me, dorks. Get a life.
That is all.
I’m seeing a lot of handwringing from people saying, essentially, that they hate Trump, but they don’t like Maine and Colorado disqualifying him, because it would be better to “beat him at the ballot box.”
No, it wouldn’t. And here’s why.
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Fact is, we already beat him at the ballot box. Legitimately. Decisively. And he and his followers have spent three years denying that reality. And people are dead because of it.
We underestimate how much evil has been normalized as a result.
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But it’s more than just the insurrection of 1/6. It’s that the constant barrage of Trump’s reflexive dishonesty has eroded the very nature of truth for roughly 40% of the country.
We no longer share a common set of facts. It makes it impossible for reason to carry the day.
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The language of the Constitution is crystal clear. There’s a reason we didn’t give the Confederacy a chance to be defeated at the ballot box. Once you cross the line into insurrection, you’re too dangerous to be given that option.
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So I welcome the disqualifications. Every state should follow suit. The Supreme Court should uphold it. We have tolerated this anti-constitutional fascist for far too long. We are in violation of the Constitution if we continue to do so.
/fin
They won’t. 1/6 wasn’t just a one-off. It was a trial run. Trump is a fascist, and 1/6 was his attempt to burn down the Reichstag. The fact that he’s an incompetent fascist doesn’t mean we should give him a handful of matches to let him try again.
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The horrors that Trump has perpetuated would have been unthinkable as recently as a decade ago. Can you imagine a universe where Mitt Romney dealt with his 2012 loss by instigating a riot at the Capitol? Or even if Hillary Clinton has refused to concede in 2016?
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So what makes anyone think that a Trump defeat in 2024 will do anything but exacerbate the problem? Who on earth thinks that the 40% who still think 2020 was stolen will accept a legitimate defeat in 2024?
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Trump is that dangerous. He has proven that time and again. And he no longer even tries to pretend that he will follow constitutional norms if re-elected. He has already called for the suspension of the Constitution. Why give him a chance to do that?
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@jinxidoru
Not at all. Putting Trump on the ballot is unconstitutional, based on the plain language of the Constitution itself. What would be illegal is to ignore the Constitution out of fear.
The ubiquitous clips of Kamala Harris laughing that are supposed to be somehow disqualifying make her look charming, approachable, and human.
What am I missing?
Dear fellow Latter-day Saints:
What are the odds that the “one religion under God” he’s talking about is going to include you?
You know the answer, right?
Right?
Trump’s former (and future?) national security adviser Mike Flynn: “If we are going to have one nation under God which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God and one religion under God”
So do you want to prevent abortion or make abortion illegal? Because those are actually two very different things. And the second thing is the least effective and most destructive way to do the first thing.
Watching members of my church defending the racist kids in Cedar City and/or dumping on
@DavidArchie
makes me think it’s time for a churchwide social media fast.
Joe Biden has secured his place in history as one of the finest human beings to ever hold political office.
God bless you, Mr. President. Thank you for putting country first.
Today I learned that Tim Ballard asked my father to write a foreword for one of his stupid “Hypothesis” books. Dad read it, called it “crap,” and turned him down flat.
One more reason Dad was awesome.
Covenanting not to speak evil of the Lord's Anointed is not covenanting to defend systemic failures that enable sexual abuse. If defending the Church is more important to you than protecting innocent children, you're doing it wrong.
I’m convinced that a missionary program with 100% focus on service and doing good in the world without explicit proselytizing would result in more baptisms than the current program.
Discuss.
I haven’t met anyone who has left the Church because they want to sin. I have, however, met many people who have left the Church because they were tired of constantly being told they weren’t righteous enough.
Those are not the same thing. At all.
I remain baffled by the compulsion to attribute racism to God instead of men. I recognize it’s uncomfortable to acknowledge that Brigham Young was a racist, but why are so many people willing and eager to throw God under the bus instead?
I am an active church member who knows legions of wonderful IRL active church members. So I don’t understand why the worst people I encounter on Twitter are disproportionately active church members.
To all of you “light-has-gone-from-his-eyes” folks: can you please explain to
me how vilifying David Archuleta builds the Kingdom of God? Thanks in advance.
People who leave the Church do not cease being children of God. And I’m sure our Heavenly Parents love their children at least as much as I love mine.
So I’m just spitballing here, but maybe treating nonbelievers like dirt and rejoicing in their pain isn’t a good idea.
Yes, I deactivated my account. I have too many friends here to deactivate it for good, but I was hit by a flood of bullies after unblocking too many people, and I found being a piñata to be unsettling.
So I’m taking a break. I’ll be back at some point.
A few thoughts…
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You know who’s going to separate the wheat from the tares? Jesus. At the Second Coming. According to the parable, the wheat and the tares grow together until then. Driving people out of the Church doesn’t separate the wheat from the tares. It just makes the Church smaller.
@APhase277
That’s your choice, certainly, but I don’t have conversations with self-identified fascists.
Thank you, however, for exemplifying my point.
Goodbye.
Best wishes to the Archuleta family. I hope they find joy wherever their faith journey takes them.
I have made no covenant to vilify those who leave the Church, and neither has anyone else.
A cheerful reminder that real-life members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are generally delightful human beings, whereas anonymous online members are generally the worst people in the world.
Thank you.
If you're one of these Church guys who is preoccupied with doing the Lord's job of sifting the wheat from the tares, let me help you cut to the chase.
It's you. You're the tare.
Glad I could be of service.
A heartfelt thank you to all of you who came together to report
@ExmoCringe
, an account of pure hatred and bile that is now suspended because of your efforts.
This is a great day.
Checking out the Pride setup happening right outside of Temple Square. One banner about to go up on West Temple says “Know that you are loved.” Couldn’t ask for a better Sabbath message.
I continue to be amazed/exhausted by the profound ignorance of self-appointed Church gatekeepers who don’t care that the abortion rate has gone up since Roe v. Wade was overturned.
You don’t prevent abortion by making it illegal. You prevent it by making it unnecessary.
Three days ago, I was dispirited, panicked, and resigned to a future of fascism.
Today, I am reveling in the schadenfreude of seeing dispirited and panicked Republicans flailing toward a future where their fascist candidate is going to lose.
Life is funny sometimes.
If you’re not upset about Trump’s proven record of sexual assault, then you really have no credibility when you pretend to be upset about any sexual misbehavior anywhere. You’re demonstrating that you’re happy to overlook rape when your tribalism tells you to.
The rising generation isn’t storming out of the Church in a fit of rage. They’re shrugging it off like an ill-fitting suit. I think indifference is much more problematic than hatred is.
Why, yes, Mr. Whataboutist. I will, in fact, fully accept any jury verdict found against Hunter Biden. Or the Clintons. Or, really, any Democrat who is found guilty of a crime by a jury of their peers.
Why do you ask?
It delights me to no end when bigots and bullies are outraged to discover I’m an active, believing member of the Church.
You’re going to have to deal with me sticking around, folks. This is my church, too.
… a battle you know nothing about. It shouldn’t be too much to ask that we simply be kind to each other and leave the judgment to God. But it does seem to be too much to ask of my fellow Church members on this platform, which is why I’m taking a break.
Thanks, all.
/fin
Dear Trumpy Mormons:
This is what your newfound "Christian" friends think of you. It's what they've always thought of you. They're thrilled to get your money and votes, but they hate you more than they hate Democrats.
The omnipresent world-is-getting-increasingly-wicked narrative has some serious problems. The world was once a place where it was acceptable to give an enslaved human being to the Church as tithing. Was that more or less wicked than the world we live in now?
“They’re both old."
Yes, they are. But only one of them is demonstrably losing his mind. And it isn’t Joe Biden.
If you doubt that, here’s a fun little thread I call “Things that, if said by anyone but Donald Trump, would be seen as undeniable signs of dementia."
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“But they didn’t have guns.”
“They didn’t hang Mike Pence.”
“The government wasn’t in danger.”
Look, the fact that the insurrectionists were incompetent insurrectionists doesn’t make them not-insurrectionists.
Unbelievable the contortions Trumpers do to deny reality.
@BenSJiles
Who’s with you? 100% not the evangelical Christians clamoring for this very thing, as they will turn on Latter-day Saints the instant we are no longer politically useful.
You are aligning yourself with people who vehemently hate you. It’s not likely to turn out well.
My friend President George H.W. Bush would have turned 100 today. I miss him and Barbara and will always be grateful for their wonderful lives of service.
Any candidate using the graves of our honored dead as a campaign prop would have been unthinkably awful and entirely disqualifying less than a decade ago. But in 2024, it’s just another Trump Tuesday.
So the takeaway I'm getting from Conference is that there's serious theological tension in Church leadership between universalism and exclusivity. Right now, exclusivity is winning hands down, but I believe there's a universalist future on the horizon.
Calling every LGBTQ person or ally a “groomer” renders the word “groomer” meaningless. And that’s not good, because grooming is, indeed, a thing. It’s just not the thing the bigots think it is. 1/
Just watched a video where I was ranked as a “C-list” Mormon apologist, and that I could have been A-list if I would just stop bashing Trump.
So, really, I’m aiming for F-list.
A reminder that Donald Trump committed sexual assault. This has been proven in a court of law.
As a general rule, decent people don’t give their votes to people who have been proven to be sexual predators.
Kaplan, to prospective jurors: "it has been determined already that Mr. Trump did sexually assault Ms. Carroll, that he knew when he made the statements about Ms. Carroll that the statements were false, that he made them with reckless disregard to whether they were true or false"
With his new immunity from criminal prosecution, Biden shouldn’t enlist Seal Team 6 to murder Donald Trump, even though he now legally can.
He should, however, issue an executive order declaring Donald Trump an insurrectionist ineligible to hold office under the 14th Amendment.
@ExmoCringe
Hi, Cringe. I just called that number and spoke to my friend who runs the office. She said nobody’s called to complain. She also reviewed your account and found it so disturbing that she is bringing it to the attention of Church security.
This isn’t likely to end well for you.
Too many people who complain that their religious freedom is being violated seem to define “religious freedom” as “the freedom to be a bigot without consequence.”
The hope that radiates from the Harris campaign is like water in the desert. We’ve missed this desperately! Trump’s relentlessly paranoid message of fear seems so childishly silly in comparison.
Hope wins.