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ˑ🥀’ ——— As gentle as viserion, but as defensive as drogon and as merciful as rhaegal when you utter a word against daenerys targaryen
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the importance of nettles —— a thread
nettles is among the most thematically important, non main series character in the entire f&b whose legacy is still present in the main saga but unfortunately hbo fundamentally doesn't understand her importance or what she stands for.
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@cyphariana
@PopCrave
LMAOOOO she was comfortable enough to post her family wearing that shirt
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hotd milking dany’s popularity to farm engagement & stealing her storyline — a thread
a lot prequels & sequels make callback to either evoke a feeling of nostalgia or reliance on popularity but hbo after butchering dany is not ashamed of sniffing her ashes to ride her popularity
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daenerys’ dragons represent the different facets of her. their personalities are intrinsically tied to dany similar to how she’s all 3 conquerors in one body and grrm perfectly tied this to two possible future riders but D&D wrote all these out despite its importance
—— a thread
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george r.r. martin’s dream cast for asoiaf characters — a thread
grrm stated that he had a few actors in mind for particular parts when he was finishing up agot but most of his ideal casting were unavailable during the casting duo to their age and other issues
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the concept of ‘targaryen madness’ is one of the biggest misunderstandings among the readers and HBO
people assume it’s ‘madness’ in the conventional sense of some inheritable mental illness instead of looking at how ‘madness’ actually features in daenerys’ story:
—— a thread
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a list of incestuous feelings in westerosi houses — a thread
incest is certainly a theme that crops up throughout the entire series and drives much of the plot of the first book and continues to effect things after that but the author is not very ashamed of overplaying it
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targaryens, daynes & velaryons: otherworldly beautiful
lannisters & baratheons: exceptionally beautiful but not as exotic
tullys & tyrells: comely and classically beautiful
everytime a martell is born the gods flip a coin
starks, greyjoys & blackwoods: unconventional beauties
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remember when elia martell was assaulted by the kingswood brotherhood and arthur dayne hunted and k1lled them all after that…
princess and the knight is such an elite trope but ofc grrm had to make his finest knight a boring dutiful character
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discovering the etymology and origin of asoiaf names — a thread
george r.r. martin does a fantastic job with making such unique names for his factional setting so i tried to make a list of names and what they were most likely inspired by.
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—— thread: etymology of asoiaf houses
in this thread I try to make a short list of house names and what they we’re inspired by. i’m not suggesting that i cracked the code or i’m 100% right. however, the ones I've stated here are simply too plain to be refuted as coincidental.
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𝗽𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗸𝗹𝗮𝗴𝗲 was grrm’s dream tyrion. it was the only role where they didn’t audition anybody and just sought to cast peter
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tyrells are designed to be foils to the lannisters. one is ruled by a man, the other by a woman. one get power through fear, the other through ppl’s love.
tyrells value each other and know the power teamwork but tywin destroyed his own family from within and caused their doom
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thinking about how grrm intentionally paralleled dany and brienne to their great grandfathers who were bestfriends only for them to not have a single wholesome scene with each other in game of thrones…
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geoege: actually i love all my houses equally
Also george making sure that dany/jon’s future child has stark, targaryen, blackwood, dayne, martell and velaryon blood:
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grrm’s ideal casting for cersei was 𝗻𝗶𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗲 𝗸𝗶𝗱𝗺𝗮𝗻. he even said “she has the perfect look for for her”
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book accurate dany… i’m sobbing she’s just a child
this girl was sold and r4ped at the age of 13 then her bodily autonomy was violated and had a painful miscarriage at the age of 14…
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something very adorable about dany’s house with the red door being inspired by the house grrm’s family lost during the great depression which had a RED door
dany carries the desire grrm has always had to get back their family legacy and home that their ancestors built and lost
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𝘀𝗲𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗮𝗻 was the actor grrm has always had in mind for ned
“we knew sean bean would be perfect for ned and he was great. we did some auditions with some other people in case we couldn’t get him.”
credit to lannistertwinz (
@SmiledSoSweetly
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Interviewer: Why is Dany a princess and not a prince?
GRRM: I made this choice a long time ago, but I think I wanted to play a little with gender roles and reverse things a little… And, of course, “Mother of Dragons”, to my mind, is much better than “Father of Dragons”.
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as much as i loved emilia’s braids, grrm made dany lose her hair two times to subvert and smash dothraki expectation about a leader.
when dany became bald, she became a real dothraki leader for her ppl and when she loses her hair in daznak's pit, her dothraki ppl go rescue her
“When dothraki are defeated in combat, they cut off their braids in disgrace, so the world will know their shame.”
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it’s crazy how grrm didn’t even try to be subtle about the similarities between rhaenyra and arianne. fighting for their birthright is not the only parallel he has drawn.
both are described as curvy and beautiful princess, fashion icons who loved lavish clothing and jewelry.
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the way you can tell that in any other fantasy story, the daynes would be the main protagonists…
grrm’s favorite minor house, mysterious backstory, their sword is made from a “fallen star” AND the ptwp came from their lineage?
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nettles is a black, lowborn, orphaned girl who the author establish parallels with the main series hero.
just like dany, nettles grew up in poverty who used her wits to survive and independently did something that privileged targaryens failed to do so tamed an *adult wild* dragon
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🧵: Who was the "brother I loved" Bloodraven spoke of?
some ppl think it was Daemon and the rest think it was Daeron but who the actual material points to it?
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current lannisters think of themselves as the new targaryens. in asos jaime mention how they are above laws, like gods & targaryens. allusions of targ “silver” vs lannister “gold”.
tywin was jealous of how aerys looking down on lannisters and wanted to prove he’s as good as them.
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both GoT and hotd had terrible writers but one of their notable difference is that GoT had actors who had more better insight on the series than d&d. actors who were expert level on the series and gushed about it on interviews & stood up for their characters against the writers
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in asoiaf “delicate beauty” is only used three times and in two of them it was used to describe naerys and elia’s beauty
my slender and frail babies
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drogo dying pathetically and turning into a vegetable while dany looking so angelic like the absolute goddess she is in one frame,, this art can't get any better than this
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She’s unintentionally so funny 😭 underrated af
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“You look… ” She hesitated.
“like a woman?” He laughed.
“like a Targaryen,” Arianne insisted. […] something about him made her skin crawl. Was this what Viserys looked like? If so perhaps it is a good thing he is dead.
DAY 4 of the ☀️DORNE 30(1) day-challenge ☀️
Who is your favourite Dorne POV ?
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i’ll never forget how hbo also aged up dany and made jorah the pedobear into this poor guy who never got a chance with the woman he loves and someone dany should’ve appreciated more
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there’s a cultural aspect about Velaryons supporting female Targaryen claimants twice who got usurped by male claimants later and Dany's arc being connected with the number three and her breaking the generational curse.
all six 🎨 by chillyravenart
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what a twist. in a story that starts out with the return of ice zombies destroying the humanity, the person who is the real thread is just a 16yo girl who’s doesn’t sit on the top of the stairs of the pyramid bcz she wants to be equal as ppl and the only one who can save them
@Sir_C_Singleton
@Rothmus
That’s the twist. The White Walkers were not the prophesied threat to the world that the Prince that was Promised was supposed to stop.
It was Daenerys, and the tyranny that comes with utopian goals and the conquest required to attain it. THAT was the Long Night.
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grrm envisioned 𝘁𝗮𝗺𝘇𝗶𝗻 𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁 as daenerys and even said “tamzin was dany”
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“dracarys” is a word SPECIFICALLY chosen by dany to train her dragons. a word that wouldn’t be said in daily lives by strangers to led her dragons breathing fire
but hbo turned it into a magical word used by targaryens that makes dragons breath fire… taking away dany’s idea
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does a 13yo bridal slave who was coerced to marry a brutal warlord against her will have the option to say no and consent?
do you find that 13yo who consent to sex regularly consider k1lling themselves like dany contemplates suicide due to the pain from being repeatedly raped?
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grrm’s ideal casting for jaime was 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝘆 𝗲𝗹𝘄𝗲𝘀 who was old for the role by the time the show adaption came around.
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*dany crucifying only 163 slave masters to deliver justice to those 163 innocent slave children who were nailed*
my immediate reaction:
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Dothraki named the comet Shierak qiya, the Bleeding Star. she had seen it first on the night her dragons had awakened.
[…]
Jhogo, you are to follow Shierak qiya
[…]
- I returned with three who would look on you… The woman in the Common Tongue of Seven Kingdoms, “I am Quaithe”
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“king loreon v [lannister] was dubbed queen lorea, for he was fond of dressing in his wife's clothing and wandering the docks of lannisport in the guise of a common prostitute.” —— twow
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through two outcast unprivileged girls grrm solve the mysteries of certain method of bonding and birthing dragons.
dany use her house words (FIRE & BLOOD magic) to birth dragons
netty method of taming dragons mirror the first valyrian dragonriders who were shepherd
🎨
@Hyloraart
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hbo’s beef with badass and canonically black women must be studied
an essential part of the dance, the only person who tamed a wild dragon? exclude her
a smart & sticking it to the patriarchy girl training by posing as a male and infiltration a male-only citadel? exclude her
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viserion is the most affectionate, the friendliest and the gentlest of dany’s children. the one that most tries to cuddle with dany, to be close to her, and the one who tries to reach for her when chained. viserion’s nature is so similar to kindhearted and graceful rhaenys
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“once dany lands in westeros with full grown dragons, they’re gonna kickass and be tougher than anything we've seen since aegon the conquorer.”
—— so spake martin, 2003
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@fkadaenerys
“a suit of valyrian armor from his time in valyria” does grrm and the westeros knows about this? 😕
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asoiaf is not about anti-feudalism but about “cripples, bastards, broken things”, outcasts of society, unprivileged & empathetic to the unjustices of the world so use this experience to bring changes. it’s critical of modern issues that is presented through the lens of feudalism
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“daenerys is prince rhaegar’s sister, but I am rhaegar’s son. I am the only dragon that you need.” idgaf how evil euron and cersei are... someone should teach this kid some humility 🗿
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grrm didn’t tell us that there has never been a ruling lady/queen of winterfell, didn’t add karstark succession crisis, didn’t write a whole ass novel about she-wolves birthright getting stolen by an uncle just for y’all to say jon/bran/rickon are going to end up ruling the north
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“there will be a lot of dragons. Daenerys is one of the main 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐞 of the novel, and 𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐡𝐞𝐫.”
—— GRRM’s Mir Fantastiki interview
“life is warmth, and warmth is fire, and 𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐠𝐨𝐝’𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐠𝐨𝐝’𝐬 𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐞.”
—— ASOS
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@daenerysim
imagine their surprise finding out the bald/short-haired person they saw in their dreams was a girl and not some twinky targ prince
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love rhaenys but since y’all wanna be assholes to mother catelyn i’m just gonna leave this here
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perfect opportunity to spread my anti-an*al agenda
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drogon is the biggest, the independent, willful & fearless dragon. drogon is her mount, the embodied of her conqueror side but also her role as the azor ahai as her lightbringer
he has saved her life in the undying and forced daenerys to recognize who she is
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it’s crazy how important the second daenerys is in asoiaf…
the whole dornish plot is tormented by the dichotomy between continuing her legacy and vengeance. she also foreshadows dany’s future goals like uniting westeros & the destruction of systems that perpetuate inequality
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“Jaime and I are more than brother and sister. We are one person in two bodies. We shared a womb together. He came into this world holding my foot, our old maester said. When he is in me, I feel … whole.”
—— Eddard XII, AGOT
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“Robert, I beg of you,” Ned pleaded, “hear what you are saying. You are talking of murdering a child.”
#EddardStark
#RobertBaratheon
#DaenerysTargaryen
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as a black valyrian girl who starts off with little power, her legacy is present in the main saga. she’s worshipped & viewed as a deity because of the power she claimed by herself and creates the most dangerous tribe in the mountains of the vale aka burden men who helped tyrion
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according to elio garcia, grrm cited young 𝗮𝗱𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗽𝗮𝘂𝗹 as his ideal fancast for young robert baratheon and renly
renly is supposed to be the very image of robert during the rebellion no a twink
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happy that got prequal bloodmoon was cancelled bcz not only it’s inaccurate to make first men casterlys blonde (lannisters get that trait from andal side) and starks redheads… it was utterly racist to turn natives into black ppl who get cursed to become cotf like wtf?
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In my r*ddit !ncel era (making a wojak meme about the asoiaf fandom)
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rhaegal is furious, sharp and quick to act/attack. when quentyn whipped viserion, the protective rhaegal enacted justice for viserion and dany by burning him alive. when dany is tricked by fake “peace” rhaegal make the pyramids of his mother’s enemies into a ruin
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House Targaryen protector of the smallfolk 🥹🫶🏼
thanks to:
alysanne for protecting lowborn women from noblemen by abolishing the first night
egg for passing pro-smallfolk laws & getting called a tyrant by nobles for it
baelor for forcing the nobles to wash the feet of lowborns-
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her story solves mysteries related to grrm’s lore. sheepstealer follows her so she has VALYRIAN magical dragonbond that reaches psychic control
first valyrians who were shepherds prob used methods similar to nettles to lure the dragons before progressed to binding them with magic
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dragons bond with dany goes beyond what targaryens had with their dragons. she’s a maternal figure.
viserion & rhaegal used to get riled up when they sensed her approaching. quentyn even notes the dragons mistake a woman for dany and get agitated when they realize it isn't her.
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the identity of azor ahai was never meant to be a mystery for the readers but a dramatic irony! we hear about the prophecy AFTER dany has already fulfilled all the parts of it in previous book ago but something as simple as that still flew over a huge portion of the fandom's head
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a woman saved targaryens from doom + another birthed dragons from stone. the founding & national hero of nymeros martell is a woman
created dany and sandsnakes to subvert gender roles (male hero/zelazny sidelining oberon daughters)
grrm was on feminist mode writing these houses
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“she is the widow of a dothraki khal, a mother of dragons and a sacker of cities, aegon the conqueror with teats.”
#asoiaf
#daenerystargaryen
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eternally grateful to the talented
@vhdart_
for this amazing art
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queen alysanne would remind “daenerys is first in line; she should be queen”
the king says, “she shall be queen, when she and aemon marry” — f&b
“nor was he aemon targaryen” — jon ix, agot
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someone tell alysanne that we’re getting a queen daenerys with her aemon consort 🥹
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kevan lannister said cersei could’ve gave rhaegar the SONS he wanted with purple eyes and silver manes as a knock on his dornish-looking daughter and guess what happened few moments later? he gets stabbed 50 times just like how his big beloved brother’s dog k1lled rhaenys 😁
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grrm said he envisioned 𝗿𝗼𝘄𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝘁𝗸𝗶𝗻𝘀𝗼𝗻 as varys and would like to see him playing varys if he’s available for the hbo series
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grrm is so real for commission arts and using olivia hussey and queen sybilla as his fancasts for lyanna and elia
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making the bloodiest war in westerosi history to ultimately a conflict stemming from a handful of long-festering accidents & misunderstandings is bad writing. it destroys grrm’s central and underlying themes of dance which gives depth and meaning to the story and its characters
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grrm was always a fan of 𝗿𝗼𝗻 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗹𝗺𝗮𝗻 as the hound while he was writing the books. both were working on beauty and the beast.
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@vagabondany
most of these are great choices but honestly got characters embodied their characters with absolute perfection that it’s hard for me to imagine anyone other than them 😭 especially charles dance, lena headey and emilia
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"lady shiera does. bloodraven's paramour. she bathes in blood to keep her beauty”
—— the sworn sword
“the yunkai claimed that she [daenerys targaryen] fed her dragons on human flesh and bathed in the blood of virgins to keep her skin smooth”
— the windblown, adwd
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one thing about asoiaf dragons is that you can choose a dragon at any point in the history of planetos and viserion the cream and gold still clear of them.
diagnosed with pretty princess syndrome
Sunfyre the Golden. The most beautiful dragon ever seen.
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grrm commented on his website that 𝗮𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗮 𝗸𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗼 is how he envisioned arianne, as she looked in the 1984 film, purple rain
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doran might be one of grrm’s self-inserts. both love chess/cyvasse, under massive pressure from their fervent fanbase/family for patience & waiting too long to get anything done.
doran waited 16 years for revenge. 12 years since adwd (winds in 2028?)
MARTin MARTell coincidence?
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dany is the ONLY major character that grrm considered making black. the ONLY yt character that in-universe got mistaken for a brown-skinned ethnicity. she wants to be at the same level as her ppl yet she’s the only one who gets called a yt devilish nazi by yt pseudo-intellectuals
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some interesting change between early drafts and the published version of asoiaf: thread
u/gsteff on asoiaf sub did a series of posts on the discoveries they found in early drafts of asoiaf books during their visit of the crushing library
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it’s alluded in the books and confirmed by grrm that dragons are intelligent animals with differing personalities. their personalities represent different pieces of dany she should unite to become the ruler she needs to be! similar to how she’s the embodiment of all 3 conquerors
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“aegon the conqueror brought fire and blood to westeros, but afterward he gave them peace, prosperity, and justice.” — asos
“it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood.” — fevre dream
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“𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱,” daenerys told the swaying grass. — adwd
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rhaenyra seeing the throne as a burden of duty to unite the realm, creating a new order, wanting to ensure peace as her duty, concern over the destructiveness of war etc.
ALL these traits were ripped out of dany’s character to make rhaenyra more sympathetic after butchering dany
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Robert Baratheon, Luscious mane.
Renly Baratheon, Luscious mane.
Tommen Baratheon, Luscious mane.
Edric Storm, Luscious mane.
Stannis Baratheon, bald…
@THESPRlNGPRINCE
Rhaenyra Targaryen-Silver of hair
Leanor Velaryon-Silver of heir
Harwin Strong- Brown of hair
Jacaerys Velaryon- Brown of hair
Lucerys Velaryon- Brown of hair
Joffrey Velaryon- Brown of hair
So let us drain our cups to those three strong boys!
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there’s a misconception about f&b unreliability. grrm decided to infuse f&b history with subtext that requires critical thinking about his intent, maesters biases and limitations but he give us credit to catch the details clueing us into the inaccuracies, omissions, and biases.
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grrm told the actress 𝗷𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗮 𝗴𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗸𝗮𝗿 that she looks like nymeria sand
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a black bastard girl who grew up poor on the streets yet still managed to rise above it all.
but out all the dragonseeds, she's the only one who express compassion and grieves towards the death of innocents & jace when she doesn’t even have to
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enough with bashing duncan/jenny, rhaegar/lyanna for causing wars and bloodshed over their love, lets talk about the selfishness and ego of the baratheons for starting wars TWICE bcz they couldn’t handle getting rejected
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rhaego was a healthy boy in human form before the blood magic performed by mmd. the reason he looked like a dragon that had been dead for years (despite kicking before) was bcz his life was traded to awaken dragon eggs that had been fossilized for years
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—— thread: the three daenerys and their connection with the north and dorne
grrm intended to draw certain parallels between both daenerys and our dany but after an analysis i noticed they both not only foreshadow dany’s storyline but also starks and martells future storylines
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this amok illustration of margaery & dany is giving alicent & rhaenyra if they slayed nearly as much as them
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“The most beautiful woman in the world, thought Quentyn. My bride-to-be, if the gods are good.” — ADWD
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“Rhaenyra Targaryen was a precocious child, bright and bold and beautiful as only one of dragon’s blood can be beautiful.” — Fire & Blood
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“when she was small she would sometimes don her brother's clothing as a lark. she was always startled by how differently men treated her when they thought that she was jaime” ——— affc, cersei iv
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in a genre where black characters are mostly centered around white protagonists, she has an entire life & claims sheepstealer without intervention from others and when she left the main narrative of f&b, she became a goddess in her own right at the end of her narrative departure
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this is what grrm said about his dance era female characters…
if hotd really wanted a “its men! men! men want war and us poor helpless women have to clean up the mess” they should’ve picked another reign
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