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“We are in the middle of an evolution, but we are not anywhere close to the end. We haven’t seen anything yet.” said by the Washington athletic director Troy Dannen.
2024 folks.
Texas & Washington meet Monday as programs leaving their leagues and, some say, partially responsible for a historic realignment wave.
Their ADs say this was inevitable. “We are in the middle of an evolution.”
On the Realignment Bowl and a new Era
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Paul Finebaum firing realignment shots with Matt Barrie on his show.
"There is such a fissure right now in the ACC"
"I just want to congratulate The ACC for essentially voting out Clemson, North Carolina and Florida State because after what happened Friday with the admission of
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@bordeauxyoutube
The new game will have metro markets now for recruiting and not just done solely by State.
Arizona State is the bigger rebuild right now and they give you that more localized Metro market recruiting option to try out with your first play through.
ASU is the much better choice
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@_CoachHill
@CBKReport
@Forbes
"Our analysis excluded schools with fewer than 4,000 students, the eight old Ivies and four Ivy-plus schools—Stanford, MIT, Duke and Chicago."
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@bordeauxyoutube
I mean, if that is for real then its easy...you take the best deal. This is the NIL Age.
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The ACC is busy breaking their own bylaws to try and get jurisdictional primacy over FSU. I think they are about to lose that this week.
They didn't get ahead of Clemson though. They just got flanked.
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@JoePompliano
@paposfut
They say that the Olympics is just his side gig while he is in France on...other business.
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@BuckeyeFett
Not even that much. He only has detention if he enrolls again within four years. If he enrolls in five years, all good, no detention.
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I watched the entire court proceeding yesterday in Washington and perhaps the most telling part of it for me was at the end when the UW lawyer delivered the threat that the conference could still be dissolved by California law where the other 10 do not have to be board members to
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@wilnerhotline
Kind of like how OSU and WSU would be cut off from FY24 revenue if the PAC had been dissolved by vote?
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@BckNThe90s
@CBKReport
@Forbes
UNC has been considered a top tier Public Ivy for quite some time now. They were on the first list put out with the likes of Texas and Virginia, not the second one.
Maryland is an interesting choice.
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I wonder what he knows?
🚨 Commitment Alert 🚨
Four ⭐️ WR Jordan Anderson commits to Oregon State 🙌
Anderson is a
#Rivals100
WR, who held over 24+ offers.
Major land for the Beavers 🦫
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So FSU is now starting up a women's lacrosse team. I wonder why that might be? What conference, besides the ACC, supports lacrosse again?
@FSU_WLAX
As it says here, coming in 2025.
Have secured
@saramtisdale1
and heading back to Tally! Come meet our new
@fsu_wlax
at 1 pm in the Dunlap Champions Club! 🍢🥍
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I mean, I am sure there are all sorts of reasons for the FSU Athletic Director to be in Chicago talking with Boosters right?
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@JuJu_Da_Gamer
@_312DARIUS
He had to learn to play the game with what he had and up against equivalent or superior players on the other side of the ball. Much better training for what the NFL is.
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@bordeauxyoutube
Four members? So what if we want to move Oregon State and Wash State out of the PAC? Will we actually have to move in four teams in order to pull those two out?
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@NotTheExpertYT
I saw an 8-0 Georgia ranked 8th with only one undefeated team above them in ranking. The ranking system needs serious work
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@bmoorecfb
Neither. Conference Playoffs that lead to a tournament of champions. This rankings based system is corrupt.
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I am sorry Conner if you would rather this tweet not be used in the manner I intend to but I think this opinion is a good representation of quite a few people in the future if the Separationist factions within the CFB power structures continue to get their way.
A solution
You know what's crazy? Aside from the Apple Cup, I haven't looked at or heard about one game today. Maybe it's denial. Maybe it's acceptance. But college football died a little for me today. Inept leadership, media executives, and Larry Scott supporters / presidents are to blame.
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FSU attorney just dropped a bomb in court saying essentially that FSU's rights are only granted to the conference for as long as they are part of the conference.
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@CFBONFOX
@HawkeyeFootball
He was not going to let there be a TD scored on his special teams unit.
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Fox coming in out of left field! I wonder what three games they want?
Oregon State and Washington State football TV contracts are being finalized -- it will be The CW and Fox, per sources.
The CW gets 10 games.
Fox owns 3 games.
More details:
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Really hope this works out for those guys.
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@NicoleAuerbach
Some folks would probably prefer National Championships be handed out based upon recruiting class rankings too.
That post you quoted just looks like a coping method. Its a rough day for SEC fans, not having a team in the final game.
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Today is the big day in the WSU/OSU court case against the PAC.
If/when they win, Washington will have to take it to the Supreme Court.
If they do that, then the timeline gets extended by quite a bit. Can the CFP afford that? I don't think so.
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@CFBONFOX
@EASPORTSCollege
My suggestion: Do this again after the first roster patch during this season when they patch the roster ratings based upon actual results and not just preseason perceptions. Watch for that at like week 4 perhaps.
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“We want fair consideration under a Power Five umbrella,” Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes told Yahoo Sports. “We want access, and distribution is important. We didn’t put ourselves in this position.”
These are fighting words folks.
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@IsItOutEA
@UncleSamsReject
@NotTheExpertYT
@bordeauxyoutube
The Ivy League, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Northern Iowa just to name a few.
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By not paying themselves either, they aren't breaking the stipulation put upon them by the Superior Court.
This is some high stakes game of chicken.
News: WSU & OSU have blocked a midyear, ~60 million revenue distribution to all
#Pac12
campuses:
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@CFBONFOX
Likely Travis Hunter due to him having to have high stats in both Defensive Back focused ratings and Receiver focused ratings.
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In other news, Texas and Oklahoma claim The Big 12 will be keeping 2023-2024 revenue all for themselves as well.
In the latest legal filing, the 'Pac-10' suggest the 'Pac-2' would retain all 2023-24 revenue for themselves if given sole control of the board
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Here we go, confirmation that WSU and OSU are holding up CFP business.
CFP shelves talk of changes while Pac-12 situation plays out - ESPN
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I don't want to go into the details too much for this article but I think it might be wise for the ACC to take a settlement else they may be risking getting absolutely nothing. That is a precedent that they definitely do not want to be made.
Nearly two weeks after the ACC raised the stakes in its legal battle with FSU by filing an amended complaint in North Carolina Superior Court, FSU’s attorneys filed their amended complaint Monday in Leon County.
And it was a scorcher.
Details here:
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Well here it is for the folks following that were also wondering. In the last minutes OSU and WSU did get a special deal. So it would seem they actually do have a Commissioner that is working for them now.
Pac-12 negotiated an amended CFP distribution for Oregon St & Washington St of $3.6M each annually for at least 2026-28, sources tell
@YahooSports
- up significantly from original figure of ~$350K.
CFP had treated OSU/WSU as any other independent not named Notre Dame (UConn).
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@bordeauxyoutube
I am going to throw you a curveball.
I think you should lock Cincinnati and if you pick them, I think you should have a stipulation that you have Kentucky as an OOC match up for them every season.
Cinci is just moving up to the Big 12 so they are underwhelming right now so
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I think the Saga of Oregon State and Washington State is compelling, today only making it more so. I might sit through a horrible CW broadcast in order to continue following it.
Oregon State and Washington State are wrapping up the deal for their 2024 home football games.
Exposure was the focus. And it appears they got it.
Read:
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Just my opinion, take it for what you will but if the action taken by the AG to file suit against the ACC in the State of Florida isn't enough to bring parties to the settlement table then I don't know what would.
Those lawyers surely cannot want to take on the AG office in
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The talk is getting heavy when it comes to realignment folks. What is true and what is subterfuge? Hard to tell these days. It does feel like something big is imminent.
Time is running out.
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@bordeauxyoutube
The strategic side of this game is perhaps the most surprising. It's that good. I thought it might be a bit of a mess in its first go after 10 years. Recruiting in college football has changed quite a bit in 10 years.
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@CFBHeather
@NDFootball
@theACC
@FSUFootball
That is their choice. We can respect their choice to remain Independent but we dont have to build a system around it.
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For you Realignment/Consolidation followers, we have had a big day for news on that front. There is so much building up. The moment the PAC situation gets agreed upon, we may get flooded with news when that Dam breaks.
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@bordeauxyoutube
Nothing against FSU but its SDSU. New stadium, solid uniforms, Southern California recruiting.
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Nice choice of words. I watched and they were. Could tell that even through the screen.
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So here we go. Schulz is going on the offensive.
WSU’s Kirk Schulz will formally present to CFP leaders next week a proposal for Pac-12 to be treated as P5 conference in revenue & voting rights in the future, he tells
@YahooSports
.
“We just don’t feel that we should be regulated by no fault of our own"
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@CFBONFOX
Easy answer is Tim Lester. Their offense was ranked dead last in the entire FBS last season. This isn't a hard one to figure out.
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Let the theorizing commence!
There are no current Big 12 Conference members anywhere near this.
The Big 12 Conference has selected Weyerhaeuser King County Aquatic Center in Federal Way, Washington to serve as the host site for the 2025 Big 12 Swimming and Diving Championship.
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“I won’t be commenting on expansion speculation today,” Yormark said. “But I will say this: It is no different than last year. If an opportunity presents itself in this conference I am going to explore it.”
Not exactly shutting the door on expansion.
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@RedditCFB
They are going to say that Georgia beating an undefeated conference champion means they have to be in the CFP and that Alabama beating Georgia means Alabama has to be in. Sorry Texas.
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Well, it would seem that the period of time where Oregon State and Wash State are suing their own conference is over.
Now that they are not suing their own conference...
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Auto bids for conference championship winners are bullshit? Something about getting paid by ESPN that makes people think their opinion should matter more than results on the field.
Here we have
@JoeTessESPN
rightly taking a sledgehammer to next year’s CFP auto-bid structure
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@ESPNRittenberg
Interesting timing. A day after Michigan drops their case against The Big Ten.
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@Brett_McMurphy
@dpshow
I wonder how often he looks up at the Stanford Law Degree hanging on his office wall as he is on the phone with ACC schools trying to get them to vote yes on Stanford.
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@Sidelines_SN
@SSN_Wazzu
@SSN_Beavers
@SSN_BoiseState
@SSN_UNLV
@SSN_ColoradoSt
@SSN_FresnoState
@SSN_SJSU
@SSN_NewMexico
@SSN_WYO
@SSN_AirForce
That's 14 schools. Throw in a couple Texas schools and you have your 16 members plus locations in Texas.
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@RohanLawPC
"Your honor, we cant file down there without talking to them first!"
But you can file a lawsuit against a member of the conference without talking to any members of the conference first. Got it.
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@LateKickJosh
Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia, Florida State, Alabama, Notre Dame, Texas, Michigan, Penn State and...Stanford.
That's right, Stanford.
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@wilnerhotline
Rules do sometimes change. They would hardly even have to change these in order to do so. By the way, whatever happened to rounding up?
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@jasonscheer
Report: Arizona is 240 million dollars in debt and must cut spending including financial aid to students.
In other news: Arizona will make Coach Fisch the highest paid coach in school history.
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@TheWildUte
Why do they need to compromise at all? ASU, AU, UU and CU are the ones that needed saving. You are asking a fanbase that almost had their conference torn apart by your previous conference to now "compromise" by giving the Utah fanbase what it wants?
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@achristovichh
Would love to some day hear the perspectives of the two that voted no but that probably won't happen.
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@SickosCommittee
Yeah there are so many holes in this story, including the part where The Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 conferences wont even sit down to talk to these people about this idea.
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@EmmanuelAcho
So how about teammates of his that might still be trying to prove themselves for a shot at the league? How much would him stopping now affect that?
Are we now saying that players should have zero loyalty to their fellow teammates? How may came there because of him being QB1?
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@Brett_McMurphy
That definitely seems to be a clarification of tone change within the SEC about certain additions and that doesnt mean just FSU.
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@wilnerhotline
They probably have a good case. Notices to depart the conference can likely be used to take voting rights.
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@ArmyBarstool
It may not be the biggest stadium, but the trees in the background of this make it look pretty amazing.
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This FSU lawyer is absolutely spitting fire in this hearing.
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@jasonscheer
@PeteThamel
Subscription escalators? No USC, no UCLA and no Deion Sanders? Good luck.
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Looks like someone is preparing for departures
Update on ACC/ESPN "look-in": Being told that future pro rata of expansion candidates will be directly tied to the increase in the TV value they brings to the ESPN-owned ACC Network.
@OregonState
@UUtah
@SDSU
@USF
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If UConn is added, it may not be the Big 12’s last addition.
“Keep your eye on what happens in the ACC,” a source said.
Big 12, UConn in discussions for Huskies to join Big 12 in football in 2031 & all other sports in 2026, sources told
@ActionNetwork
. Big 12 presidents must approve, but commish Brett Yormark has been long-time proponent of the Huskies, sources said
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@AndrewMarchand
@slmandel
"The ACC board of directors heard a presentation from the group in February. However, planned dinners with administrators from the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 all were called off."
Details, details, details...
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Basically The ACC wants FSU to shut up because ESPN may use this whole fiasco as explanation for why they are not going to pick up that option on the ACC past 2027.
Just my thoughts on it.
As part of this amended complaint, the ACC is seeking unspecified damages from Florida State.
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Oh how a single emoji can cause quite the stir. Oh what could it mean?
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@mark_hokie
I am sure its not lost upon you just how similar this sounds to what folks were saying in the PAC after they found out USC and UCLA were going to the B1G.
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Food for thought:
Yormark negotiates a deal for a 2028 look in window to reevaluate the percentages of ownership in the CFP.
Now, also we have Oregon State and Wash State with a new deal that gets them paid by the CFP until 2028.
Well...that is certainly interesting.
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@bordeauxyoutube
@MT_FB
@SanJoseStateFB
You really should have both in your top 5. Make it a top 6.
If not though, it would be a shame to not have at least one of them make it to the top five.
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@bordeauxyoutube
Oh you just wait! The QB in the picture had to transfer out. But, as an Iowa fan I'm probably not playing them first either.
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So OSU will technically become a Big 12 school if this happens.
Oregon State in talks about adding its gymnastics program to the Big 12.
I have the details.
Plus:
• Oregon-WSU and Oregon-UW football games?
• Final Pac-12 Network event
• A fun Utah podcast
• Cal, Stanford nuggets and more.
Spanning the Globe:
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@joelklatt
Imagine that, an ex Buffalo QB is excited about the biggest story in the Sports World happening at his Alma Mater.
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Baylor's AD, Mack Rhoades, on potential talks between Big 12 and OSU/WSU. I will paraphrase because he is a difficult person to directly quote in this manner...
No talks have happened for now but who knows in the future and that he wouldn't rule it out for the future.
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@bordeauxyoutube
That's a fair call. They were always in the conversation for who has the best looking uniforms.
The new uniforms look sharp but they no longer stand out.
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This whole ACC vs Big 12 realignment deathmatch on twitter has become quite the show.
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