"What happens if you win the fight before Broly can transform?"
Then you won the fight. How does it make sense to say he isn't the best unit in the game because sometimes you don't win the exact way you want to win?
How did the narrative around Broly get to the point where people actually believe he "just does damage and nothing else"
Like first of all, we should understand that he's probably the best offensive unit in the game
He also has 1.5 million defense and guard, so idk lol
I know this boss is bad for the game, but it did buff one unit back to being an easy top 10 TUR
Nearly year old "bad unit" outperforming best TUR contender TEQ Vegeta
What's an argument you can use to say TEQ Gohan is better besides "TEQ ULTIMATE GOATHAN OMG 🥰🥰🥰🥰"
I don't think that argument exists ngl. Kefla's just better now lol
(Exact same thing applies to Videl)
@dontallow
Not needing the strongest transformation in the game to consistently win is a huge positive in Broly's favor, yeah. Winning can't be a negative.
@DTR_Vector
@Kakarot_AU
@DaTruthDT
@gogeta_solos_
I don’t like FPSSJ4 but your underrating his tanking in those 2 turns he’s the best tank in game plus giving all Allie’s 70% Def on one of them and healing 77% HP on another
Using Beast against the hardest fights, I do think PHY Gohan is better than Orange Piccolo at this point.
Gohan's damage is a lot more valuable than anything Piccolo can do for Beast's team. Links are a huge difference too. 6/7 instead of 2/7.
@DTR_Vector
The fuck is this kinda logic lmfao
I could easily use this to say SSBKK is currently top 5 in the game cause he can win fights with a weak team too
Great LR on release, but got probably the most disappointing EZA in the history of the game
Great LR that couldn't even transform because of his active condition
Banner unit
F2P unit
😔
i dont think he even makes the top 10, or he is at the bottom.
here are my reasons.
-most of his teams just got way better options
-his ass cant stand slot 1 anymore, even with guard he cant deal with 1m normals with that lvl of def
-his dmg just got completly outdated
The final Omega runs with Super Trunks are done.
10-0.
After 100 runs, the final result is 91-9.
I can confidently say that Super Trunks has a 91% win rate in this fight.
Undeniably, Trunks is dominant against one of the hardest bosses in the game.
🐐🐐🐐🐐
Finished the 10 Omega runs for today, ending 9-1.
The one loss came on run 8, where Future Gohan already lost his extra 40% DR. Forgot to screenshot, though.
Total record so far is 81-9.
Tomorrow's gonna be the last 10 runs.
Toppo's pretty good. I don't like his design, but he's still great defensively if you save GoD Toppo for the end
Those normals at the end were kinda disappointing tho lmao
Vegeta's so good. Not amazing offensively, but his slot 1 tanking is what I like about him anyway.
Also, Super Trunks is back. He's doing this while also having his usher for the final phase.
@BubbleOphie
Both have Effective Against All Types, Crit, Add, and dodge.
Bardock has 1 Category Enemy restriction and Gogeta has an orb restriction.
The biggest glaring difference is EZA and LR stats. Thats the only part where Gogeta’s damage is “way better”.
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@illusPlatypus
That logic is flawed. Raditz might be "better" in Fusion Zamasu, but he's still awful in that fight. So to me, it doesn't even really matter who's better there if both units aren't good for it. That's where you have to start looking at their performance in other fights.
People are gonna use the transformation thing to say Broly isn't 1, and I just don't think it makes sense.
Piccolo isn't in the same conversation as Broly at all. You really don't need two FP Broly's. His base being so good makes it even less of an issue.
This unit has disappointed me a little bit after using him. He feels kinda aimless to me?
His damage is good, but not exceptional. And he can tank pretty well, but not as well as I would've liked.
Just an additional Super would've fixed both of these issues
I understand that there's better defensive units, but you're not gonna convince me that his tanking isn't still impressive with how insane his damage is
And no, "damage means nothing" isn't a real argument lmao
Even with the Gogeta fight, I'm still not impressed with Piccolo. He feels flawed to me on Super Heroes.
I just don't think he's worth keeping on rotation and giving hits to over units like SSBE and UI. And even if you do, he just fails to have an impact on the fight.
@Tilelhanan
Easy. Just make part 1 a dual dokkanfest, into this as a dual carnival.
Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans Goku got a carnival LR, so I don't wanna hear any lip about Tambourine 🗿🚬
Frieza can put the entire team on his back with his damage. I didn't get supered once by Beast either, so I'm pretty sure Frieza broke at least one Super.
This was also a run where Baby's giant form wasn't needed. Frieza has way more potential than a lot of people think.
Even if we ignore his base, I want to know what Bardock does in SSJ.
Defense seems fine. Nothing worth using him over.
Damage looks decent. Again, I wouldn't bring him for it.
And he has exactly no utility/support.
I don't care if he can be solid. He isn't doing anything.
STR Vegito is the hardest unit to rank from the top 10 imo
He's by far the least consistent, but his impact with the heal, scouter, and his damage is beyond everyone else
You can probably rank him anywhere from like 4 to 10
Just to compare them
Damage: Easily U2 Girls
Defense: Identical
Utility/Support: Same active, but the U2 Girls orb changing is better than 2 Ki support
Teams: OP
Consistency: Piccolo needs to take 5 hits and stay on rotation. U2 Girls just need to get 2 orbs.
Alright, so since people think Super Trunks has no value, I'll just say this
Omega is easily the 2nd hardest fight in the game. Most people agree with this and agree that it's important to be good in that fight
Against Omega, this is true
I'd feel horrible if I kept quite about this so here we go:
This is where we'll start (gathered from the Truephoria discord)
SAT's are taken in High School, meaning we can get a general age of Honeymain (16-17).
This on it's own is nothing to bat an eye at but there's more to it
ATK & DEF +50% per Ki Sphere obtained; DEF +150% when attacking when collecting 3 or more Ki Spheres; Ki +1 and ATK & DEF +30% with each attack received (up to Ki +5 and ATK & DEF +150%); randomly changes Ki Spheres of a certain Type to rainbow Ki Spheres plus an additional ATK &
Broly's biggest strength being damage doesn't mean he's bad at everything else. And I think people thinking that is the reason he gets downplayed
That, and the idea that defense is better than offense no matter what the context is (or even the rest of the units' kits)
Way I see it, the comparison between these two units goes like this:
Vegeta is better defensively, Broly is better offensively. Both of them are still great in the area the other beats them in. This balance results in them being pretty close to each other. Both of them have